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Postby redthirst » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:25 pm

Zem, I still like you better than the French.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:50 pm

Zem, I still like you better than the French.
and the Koreans
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:03 pm

After rereading the last couple pages, i thought I'd just say that, for better or for worse, I'm glad you guys are in my life.

No homo.
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I'm an asexual polyamorous triggerkin and you've neglected my preferred pronouns. Rapist!

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... Is triggerkin your gender or your sex? How can you be a triggerkin and asexual at the same time?
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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:28 pm

Why can't it be both? The struggle is real!

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Every day I'm Struggling....



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Postby Jamie » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:16 pm

[deck]
4 Flooded Strand
7 Island
6 Plains
4 Temple of Enlightenment
3 Tranquil Cove


2 Dragonlord Ojutai
4 Ojutai Exemplars
4 Monastery Mentor
4 Myth Realized
2 Narset Transcendent

4 Anticipate
1 Aetherspouts
2 Devouring Light
3 Dig Through Time
4 Dissolve
1 Gods Willing
1 Silumgar's Scorn
4 Valorous Stance


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2 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
2 Encase in Ice
2 End Hostilities
2 Erase
1 Gods Willing
2 Icefall Regent
2 Negate
2 Surge of Righteousness
[/deck]

Stole this from some guy on le reddit since it was the only one of their garbage brews that looked like it had potential. Before I told him his vs monored matchup was poop he had banishing light instead of devouring light. I don't think I agree

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Postby Stardust » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:17 pm

Every day I'm Struggling....



I'll leave now
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:21 pm

[deck]
4 Flooded Strand
7 Island
6 Plains
4 Temple of Enlightenment
3 Tranquil Cove


2 Dragonlord Ojutai
4 Ojutai Exemplars
4 Monastery Mentor
4 Myth Realized
2 Narset Transcendent

4 Anticipate
1 Aetherspouts
2 Devouring Light
3 Dig Through Time
4 Dissolve
1 Gods Willing
1 Silumgar's Scorn
4 Valorous Stance


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2 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
2 Encase in Ice
2 End Hostilities
2 Erase
1 Gods Willing
2 Icefall Regent
2 Negate
2 Surge of Righteousness
[/deck]

Stole this from some guy on le reddit since it was the only one of their garbage brews that looked like it had potential. Before I told him his vs monored matchup was poop he had banishing light instead of devouring light. I don't think I agree
0/10. My bant deck was bad and this is bad for similar reasons only exacerbated. All good cards with no curve. Like, what do you do if they play a turn 2 fleecemane lion?
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Jamie » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:49 pm

Jim Davis makes himself seem like such a badass in his articles but I know thanks to his cringy casino article he's all lies

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:08 pm

Finally built a good deck.

[deck]4 Seeker of the Way
4 Fleecemane Lion
2 Satyr Wayfinder
4 Ojutai Exemplars
1 Dragonlord Dromoka
2 Dragonlord Ojutai


4 Ojutai's Command
3 Valorous Stance
4 Anticipate
3 Dig Through Time
4 Dromoka's Command

1 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
1 Mana Confluence
2 Island
2 Plains
2 Forest
1 Windswept Heath
4 Flooded Strand
4 Temple of Enlightenment
4 Temple of Plenty
4 Yavimaya Coast[/deck]
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Pedrobear » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:23 pm

Zem, I still like you better than the French.
What is your problem with us ?

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Postby TBuzzsaw » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:58 pm

On the subject of deck building, LP, what do you think of the Temur Midrange brew I posted a while back?


[deck]Creatures
3 Stormbreath Dragon
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Savage Knuckleblade
3 Courser of Kruphix
3 Heir of the Wilds
4 Sylvan Caryatid

Planeswalkers
3 Sarkhan, Unbroken
2 Xenagos, The Reveler

Spells
1 Outpost Siege
4 Lightning Strike
3 Crater's Claws
2 Roast

24 lands

Sideboard
3 Wild Slash
3 Anger of the Gods
1 Outpost Siege
2 Reclamation Sage
2 Nylea's Disciple
2 Negate
2 Disdainful Stroke[/deck]

Xenagos is my only iffy card in the main. It's only there because I think control is coming back stronger thanks to the new set, and its +1 is nice to have in combination of Stormbreath and Crater's Claws.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:19 am

I'd play 4 roast, zero lightning strike and consider either stubborn denial or wild slashes main.

I'm also playing atarka in any deck that can reasonably cast it.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:24 am

Roast is real (in modern too!).
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:24 am

Does anyone have any exp with the Grixis Pyromancer control deck in legacy? It seems really sweet.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:26 am

Like it plays many of my favourite cards (Brainstorm, Dig Through Time, Jace, Pyromancer) but it could easily be more cute and self indulgent than good.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:27 am

What's wrong with cute and self-indulgent?
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby TBuzzsaw » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:30 am

Really zero copies of Lightning Strike? I understand the reasoning for Wild Slash to possibly replace it in the main, but I like the three damage in case of Fleecemane, Mantis, and Seeker. I was thinking if Stubborn Denial was worth it or not considering I only have 11 cards that enable it, 14 if you count Sarkhan.

Atarka was also in the maybe pile. Didn't know if I wanted something that cost that much, but with Xenagos and Sarkhan it should be okay.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:30 am

I guess I an a casual now, so probably nothing :)
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:31 am

Roast covers most of what strike does and your cheap creatures get through or hold off everything outside of mantis rider that you'd want to strike.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:32 am

I was gonna say something about women who are cute and self indulgent, but my feeligns are mixed.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:33 am

*adds Cruel Ultimatum*
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:34 am

It's no secret I'm a sucker for cute and self indulgent women.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:43 am

[deck]Creatures
3 Stormbreath Dragon
4 Thunderbreak Regent
4 Savage Knuckleblade
3 Courser of Kruphix
3 Heir of the Wilds
4 Sylvan Caryatid

Planeswalkers
3 Sarkhan, Unbroken

Spells
3 Crater's Claws
2 Stubborn Denial
3 Wild Slash
4 Roast

24 lands

Sideboard
2 Xenagos, The Reveler
3 Anger of the Gods
2 Outpost Siege
2 Reclamation Sage
2 Nylea's Disciple
2 Negate
2 Disdainful Stroke[/deck]


Looks better, couldn't fit in Atarka.

I can't help but think Outpost Siege is worse now that it has more copies of counters, but I guess it can just be used for its other mode too against control.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 20, 2015 12:50 am

Roast is good in Modern? :thumbsup:

I haven't tested it, but it got me hot and bothered when it was spoiled. Almost no need to splash black for Terminate now, unless Twin takes over in a serious way.

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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:01 am

Well, blue-red decks have struggled with Tarmogoyf and more recently Tasigur/Rhino; having a clean two mana answer that combines well with Snapcaster is much appreciated.
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:14 am

I'll certainly try it out, the old "hope they attack into my first striker + Lightning Bolt" plan doesn't work as often as I'd like.

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Postby Valdarith » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:14 am

UR Delver always had problems against green decks and Flame Slash didn't always take care of Tarmogoyf. Roast will usually kill it and Rhino, so I can see the appeal for Modern.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:15 am

It will become obsolete when our new 5/6 overlords take over.
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Postby Valdarith » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:16 am

...aaaaand beaten to the punch.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:16 am

4 Atarka's Command
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Dragon Fodder
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Foundry Street Denizen
4 Firedrinker Satyr
3 Zurgo Bellstriker
4 Stoke the Flames
4 Lightning Strike
4 Temple of Abandon
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Mana Confluence
1 Forest
8 Mountain

Still the best deck In the gauntlet.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Valdarith » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:17 am

It will become obsolete when our new 5/6 overlords take over.
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Postby zemanjaski » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:19 am

It's not major, but it's better than what we had before. Efficient removal and cheap counters plus card draw is very powerful in modern right now; I don't think you want to be on Delver-esque strategies, but there's definitely a functional control deck to be explored.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:26 am

the idea of playing control in modern makes me want to vomit.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:27 am

I'd much rather play combo decks that lose to singular cards.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:36 am

It will become obsolete when our new 5/6 overlords take over.
Ah, the old rock-paper-six toughness metagame.


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