[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:36 pm

Rick is real

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:19 pm

A real bad ass.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:20 pm

He's no Siege Rhino, though.

Aodh · Postby **Aodh** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:32 pm

Also good.

Probably want one Purphoros, so -1 Chandra or Crater for him.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:35 pm

Travelling overseas for events is so exciting

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:36 pm

Does anyone else think Ojutai is somewhere between mediocre and unplayable?

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:47 pm

It's a 7 mana sorcery in limited; it's extremely mediocre but playable.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:59 pm

New ojutai. 5/4 for 5 flyer. Heproof if it's untapped. When it deals damage draw a card.

I don't think it's good in standard, but people keep telling me it's the best dragonlord. Which is wrong. Cause that's Atarka. Cause she's amazing.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:04 pm

Ojutai is okay. Depends on what tools control can afford to protect him with.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:06 pm

being able to tap out for ojutai and just let him be until you untap is very nice

he's also in colors that are getting a lot of new tools to test out

Thrillho · Postby **Thrillho** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 10:12 pm

Mediocre maybe.
Good possibly.
Great unlikely.
Unplayable is unrelated to this card.

Also getting bad-impulse on damage != draw a card.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:06 pm

Travelling overseas for events is so exciting

Aussies consider New Zealand overseas? Mind blown. How long is the flight?

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 11:17 pm

Can't imagine more than an 2 hours.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:27 am

3.5 hours.

rcwraspy · Postby **rcwraspy** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:11 am

Can't imagine more than an 2 hours.

Pacific be large.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:12 am

Like your mom's vagina.

rcwraspy · Postby **rcwraspy** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:15 am

Just for that, I'm gonna kill Carl.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:23 am

You mean Coral.

New Combust is awesome.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 2:52 am

Coralbust

Purp · Postby **Purp** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 5:20 am

Double PPTQ weekend on dragons release weekend. Has anyone had any thoughts? I think I might stay on jeskai tempo (or maybe tokens), anticipate seems like it could be great in the deck.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:39 am

Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:46 am

http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/03/10/p ... ject-ever/

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:11 pm

300k should do it

BlakLanner · Postby **BlakLanner** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 3:24 pm

Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.

Perhaps a Mardu Control strategy? Early burn and sweepers, rely on things like Butcher, SBD, Elspeth, and Sorin to kill your opponent.

Aodh · Postby **Aodh** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 4:54 pm

Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.

I don't think you want to go all in on an anti-GW deck. You'll just lose to big creature and control strategies.

photodyer · Postby **photodyer** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:44 pm

Anyone have thoughts on a viable, flash-in-the-pan shell that can run Drown in Sorrow, HDF, Anger, Archfiend of Depravity and enchantment hate? I know that I'm going to be seeing GW Devotion, red-based aggro and Naya Walkers...Jund would be interesting but the mana seems too ridiculous.

Much of this is SB material...the question is whether there is an RBx shell that can run BB and RR as needed.
I don't think you want to go all in on an anti-GW deck. You'll just lose to big creature and control strategies.

No, not at all...sorry if I came across that way in my brevity. I think Drown is in a great place right now, and I'd rather be playing it that getting hit by it. Archfiend was a sideboard consideration that I want to take along for the 2nd day of Standard play (whole separate Swiss, not consecutive), but it's not the key. Black and red removal while maintaining access to Erase/Glare is where I'm trying to go. But maybe I'm just trying to ice skate up a hill...

Self Medicated · Postby **Self Medicated** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:15 pm

Photo, I haven't seen any list that runs those cards together. I think that's just asking too much of your mana base. Being able to reliably cast Drown or Anger on turn 3 would require at least 19 sources of both [mana]b[/mana] and [mana]r[/mana]. It's just not possible. Now, if you don't need to cast Anger on turn 3, just go black heavy on your base and know that you won't be casting Anger until turn 5-6. At that point, you need to ask yourself if it's really worth it.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:28 pm

Is the juice worth the squeeze?

Aodh · Postby **Aodh** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:34 pm

Just run Rbw with Anger as your 3-mana sweeper and Crux as a 2-of at 5 or something.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:53 pm

Who needs a win condition?

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:02 pm

20 sweepers 4 Rhino.dek

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 1:31 am

Double Dragon. Cause I couldn't think of a good deck for Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon(temur sabertooth+dromaka).

[deck]4 Orator of Ojutai
3 Dragonlord Dramoka
3 Dragonlord Ojutai

2 Last Breath
2 Divination
3 Banishing Light
3 End Hostilities
1 Negate
1 Disdainful Stroke
2 Ojutai's command
2 Dragonlord's Prerogative

2 Narset Transcendant
2 Kiora, The Crashing Wave
2 Elspeth, Sun's champion
2 Ugin, The Spirit Dragon

12 Temples
4 Flooded Strand
1 Haven of the Spirit Dragon
2 Island
2 Plains
2 Forest
1 Windswept Heath
3 Yavimaya Coast[/deck]

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:23 am

run far in the opposite direction from that deck

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:48 am

I rate it a 4.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:49 am

Kait, bust out that grading scale!

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:56 am

run far in the opposite direction from that deck

While the numbers are off, I think the deck will be good when I tune it.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:21 am

As long as you name it Hard-On for Dargons, I'll be happy.

Jamie · Postby **Jamie** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:30 am

I should just sell my cards and buy into modo. Nearest LGS is an hour away in nowheresville, Iowa

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:05 am

MTGO is great if you have nothing but hatred for yourself

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:12 am

I seem to have plenty.

Dies to Removal

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