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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 3:18 pm

[deck]UW Control[/deck]
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2 Remand
2 Sphinx’s Revelation
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3 Geist of St Traft
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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:14 pm

I really and truly don't know how that deck is supposed to win
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:22 pm

I played Cifka / Juza's BW tokens deck this weekend and it seemed quite good when I had normal draws. I was pleasantly surprised by how good bitterblossom is.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:56 pm

Cards that were banned in Modern have a tendency to be good
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Postby Aodh » Mon Feb 16, 2015 6:17 pm

Any California players here?

I'm going to SCG LA and want to know what the meta's like. In AZ, UB(g) control was very highly represented last weekend, probably because it wrecks RW. If RW's target #1 and UB(x) is around to fight it, perhaps an all-in deck would be able to dominate. The only problem with this idea is there might be a lot of Abzan and GR (since this last open), which own all-in decks... What do you think?

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Postby hamfactorial » Mon Feb 16, 2015 7:01 pm

LP is your best bet for a southern California meta scouting report.

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Postby zemanjaski » Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:32 pm

I really and truly don't know how that deck is supposed to win
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:33 pm

I like you guys. Great circle jerk, or greatest circle jerk?

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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:00 pm

:whiteknight:
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Postby Col. Khaddafi » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:59 pm

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Postby Kaitscralt » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:08 pm

Something either extremely not angry or extremely angry
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:54 am

Any California players here?

I'm going to SCG LA and want to know what the meta's like. In AZ, UB(g) control was very highly represented last weekend, probably because it wrecks RW. If RW's target #1 and UB(x) is around to fight it, perhaps an all-in deck would be able to dominate. The only problem with this idea is there might be a lot of Abzan and GR (since this last open), which own all-in decks... What do you think?
When I played at regionals there was a decent amount of red agro, UW heroic, GR decks of all strips, and a couple abzan.

I played Mono-red which was surprisingly well positioned against all the decks I played, but the flipside is that there's a large number of aggressive decks and correlated drown in sorrows/bile blights in so-cal tourneys. At this point, I have no idea what to play as I was disgusted at Abzan's inability to deal with stormbreath dragons. Abzan was fantastic against everything that didn't have hasty fliers though.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:57 am

Just play RW, LP.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:03 am

Jeskai it is.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:55 am

I've been thinking Jeskai tempo could make a comeback if everyone is starting to get off Rhino decks.

I'm unfamiliar with the LA meta since I'm farther inland in the IE. All the noteworthy players out here are primarily control and G/x Devotion. I've been talking to a lot of people out here and it seems they're all going with the noted decks.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:00 am

I think Jeskai might actually be good now since it legit beats rhino decks for the same reason the RW decks do and it destroys the big green decks since they can't beat a mantis rider.
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Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:06 pm

Some people refuse to play the best deck, even when it's red

Those man boys we call scrumpers, we call budg caj, we call FoS
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Postby Khaospawn » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:35 pm

I think Jeskai might actually be good now since it legit beats rhino decks for the same reason the RW decks do and it destroys the big green decks since they can't beat a mantis rider.
But how can it chain rhinos to rocks without playing chained to the rocks?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:10 pm

Actually relevant: I think it might be correct to be on the draw in rabble mirrors. You can't realistically play turn 3 rabble on the play against RW or Jeskai which mitigates one of the perceived advantages of being on the play and the RW/x mirrors often come down to stormbreath advantage which while counter-intuitive is often easier to achieve on the draw since you need to actually hit your 5th land drop which can be tricky on the play.

I don't know, might be insane, but it reminds me of Jund mirrors in RTR where despite farseek on the play being insane, you wanted to be on the draw to hit all your land drops and have the CA. With the efficiency of removal, you don't even hold the tempo advantage on the play as well as you normally would.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:10 pm

Worth noting, this is slightly sketcher in the strict RW mirror since you have scouring sands to rectify board states early which are easier to achieve with outbursts ad nausea.
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Postby windstrider » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:26 pm

Rules question:

If multiple Flamewake Phoenix cards are in the graveyard, can they all be brought back with just one [mana]R[/mana] at the beginning of combat?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:39 pm

^No, cause that would be busted.

To add to my previous proposal, being on the draw is also nice since the rw decks generally only have 4/5 twos giving you a higher chance to hit your 2 drop when you're on the draw.
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Postby Thrillho » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:41 pm

I saw logic knot in that UW list and I knew it was time to take my meds.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:47 pm

I'm here to talk about your meds
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Postby BlakLanner » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:56 pm

Rules question:

If multiple Flamewake Phoenix cards are in the graveyard, can they all be brought back with just one [mana]R[/mana] at the beginning of combat?
No, each Phoenix in the graveyard puts a trigger on the stack that says "Pay R to return this to the battlefield". You have to handle each trigger separately.
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Postby Aodh » Wed Feb 18, 2015 12:22 am

Play UB, LP, I think that's what I'm doing. With a bunch of green creature decks and BB/Drown sideboard slots wasted, the deck seems like a great place to be. Although, I have very little interest in UB mirrors all day if others share this paradigm.

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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Feb 18, 2015 2:38 am

U/B is bad, mkay?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:13 am

I refuse to play a deck when I'm not practiced in the mirror and I'm both not practiced in, nor interested in practicing the UB mirror.

Having said that, DECK IS GREAT right now.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:42 am

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Postby Midnight_v » Wed Feb 18, 2015 4:54 am

I refuse to play a deck when I'm not practiced in the mirror and I'm both not practiced in, nor interested in practicing the UB mirror.

Having said that, DECK IS GREAT right now.
Bullshit LP. :smiledown:

You mean to say you've been practicing the jeski mirror? We've been playing this deck for 4 seasons now "essentially". Its the same damn archetype and you should play it.

However.... G/r devotion will be huge so I mean if your logic revolved more around that matchup it would make more sense. I wish you the best either way gl man.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:01 am

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Postby Jamie » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:54 am

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:24 am

I refuse to play a deck when I'm not practiced in the mirror and I'm both not practiced in, nor interested in practicing the UB mirror.

Having said that, DECK IS GREAT right now.
Bullshit LP. :smiledown:

You mean to say you've been practicing the jeski mirror? We've been playing this deck for 4 seasons now "essentially". Its the same damn archetype and you should play it.

However.... G/r devotion will be huge so I mean if your logic revolved more around that matchup it would make more sense. I wish you the best either way gl man.
Jeskai Mirrors pretty straightforward, Play well, draw more burn.

UB is a pretty good choice in the meta. Decent vs. G devotion, good vs. RW, decent vs. Jeskai, decent vs. abzan. Basically a bunch of 50/50ish matchups while being favored vs. the best deck.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:05 pm

yeah but ub sucks
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:31 pm

there I said it
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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:45 pm

happy b-day, raspy.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:27 pm

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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:42 pm

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