[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Lightning_Dolt]

In EDH?

[Dechs Kaison]

Red has Norin the Wary.

Nothing else matters.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Lmao

[Dechs Kaison]

Don't knock it till you've played it.

[Dechs Kaison]

Norin strongest there is.

[zemanjaski]

The problem, aside from the subjective nature of the valuations, is hat the categories are taken as equal importance, which they're not.

[zemanjaski]

Makes me less worried about a PT at least.

that's like winning the lottery, then having the money taken away and saying "well at least i don't have to spend all that money"

Nah I had real fears I'd be outclassed at this level. I'm certainly at the level below the top players but am better than random guys who spike invites. I've made a lot if connections to great players and people and will have more opportunities in the future.

[Dechs Kaison]

ITT: Madding doesn't understand

Could have stopped here.

[Kaitscralt]

Makes me less worried about a PT at least.

that's like winning the lottery, then having the money taken away and saying "well at least i don't have to spend all that money"

Nah I had real fears I'd be outclassed at this level. I'm certainly at the level below the top players but am better than random guys who spike invites. I've made a lot if connections to great players and people and will have more opportunities in the future.

I thought you meant, "we didn't get a PT invite, so I don't have to worry about going to the PT"

what you meant was, "I proved to myself I am ready for the PT"

now i see

[Lightning_Dolt]

The problem, aside from the subjective nature of the valuations, is hat the categories are taken as equal importance, which they're not.

how would you rank them?

[Lightning_Dolt]

The problem, aside from the subjective nature of the valuations, is hat the categories are taken as equal importance, which they're not.

In EDH, those are the things that matter to me.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Also, Modern Masters 2015 confirmed.

Emrakul and Etched Champion confirmed.

[Jack]

Yes!

[Lightning_Dolt]

Dat awkward moment when the modern tournament you've been preparing for turns out to be standard.

[hamfactorial]

It's ok LD, just take your Commander pre-con, the power level should be right on

[Lightning_Dolt]

The stock list, or the one I modded? Lol

I had my standard deck with me. Not the end of the world.

[Lightning_Dolt]

I'm much better at standard than modern anyway. Works out.

[Purp]

Current edh playgroup:

Me: Zegana, Animar and NivMizzet.
Guy 2: Prosh, 5 color planeswalkers with Cromat, Edric, Oona, Sissay, Narset
Guy 3: Zirilin, Hanna and Skithryx
Guy 4: Azusa, Krenko, and Oloro
Guy 5: Derevi, Teferi PW, Erebos, Khalia and Elsh Norn.
Guy 6: Riku and Melek

Red is definitely the "weakest" color in EDH.

Id rank them : Black - Blue/Green - White - Red

[Jack]

Red's the weakest color, but it mono red decks are better than mono white or mono green decks.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Mono White is definitely better than Mono-Red. I don't know how you can possibly argue this.

Everything that makes red good in constructed is garbage in EDH / Multiplayer.

[Purp]

I am speaking for multiplayer here: Mono Red can really only be built one style, which is a control style deck (our zirilin deck does this very well). I think this for sure makes Mono Red better than Mono White in multiplayer, but mono white can do some broken stuff... destroy lands into land tax, our elsh norn deck is pretty powerful. Mono Green is definitely powerful, Kamal, Azusa even Titania makes pretty strong decks.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Mono White Control >>>>>>>> Mono Red Control.

[Dechs Kaison]

Norin the Wary. I don't know how you can argue against this.

[LP, of the Fires]

1v1, all that matters is deck consistency. Blue is the best by far, with black and green being close second. White and red are equally terrible. Multiplayer, blues probably still the best with all the powerful combo generals. Whites pRobably the worst for lacking a good general.

[LP, of the Fires]

Honestly, this should be how your chart looks for shit that matters in EDH:

1: General. This nigga is important

2/3: draw consistency/volume. Consistency would be preordains and ponders, volume would be concentrate and harmonizes.

4: Velocity. How fast does your deck come online. Can you combo kill turn 4? Do play a bunch of mana excel to get the ball rolling? Are you mono-sweepers to gain control?

5: Powerlevel. How good are your actual cards. If you have a consistent synergy based deck, powerlevel isn't as important hence this is the least important element. Unlike normal constructed formats, you can't really have a competitive 'goodstuff' deck because there tends to be a lot of combo, and EVERYONE has CA engines somewhere in there deck.

[LP, of the Fires]

Also, bummed US didn't win WMC. Our team was pretty good this year.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Canada's team was very good this year too

[Khaospawn]

Are we done talking about edh now?

[Kaitscralt]

We're just getting started

[Khaospawn]

[Lightning_Dolt]

Things I learned from my first PPTQ:

1) PPTQs are more similar to PTQs than to GPTs
2) PTQ end bosses are there. Highly competitive
3) Very low EV
4) PTQs are an even worse way to qualify for PTs now
5) PPTQs are not worth travelling to imho. Don't travel any further than you would for a GPT

[LP, of the Fires]

This confirms everything I thought, except for 4.

4 I think depends on your region. If you live anywhere on the east coast for instance, they are MUCH worse then the old system.

[LP, of the Fires]

Wait, modern masters GP is FOUR DAYS????

[Khaospawn]

That'll be hard to do since the set is out in May

[Khaospawn]

Misread that, thought you meant IN four days

Four days of fun!

[Lightning_Dolt]

Nice!

[rcwraspy]

This confirms everything I thought, except for 4.

4 I think depends on your region. If you live anywhere on the east coast for instance, they are MUCH worse then the old system.

Yeah this is the boat I'm in here in Boston. I've Top 16'd a couple PTQs but never reached the promised land. Having to get through all the quality players grinding both PPTQs and, if I win one, the Regional, isn't easy. Especially with most of my attention on Law School now.

[Lightning_Dolt]

GPs still seem to be the easier way in. But fuck me, that's not easy either.

[Lightning_Dolt]

Another cheater caught at worlds...

[Lightning_Dolt]

Maybe we need to cheat more? Lol