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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:17 am

You should fit in some aggro and tempo cards in your pristaxcontrombmodruu deck
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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:19 am

Knight errant?

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:12 am

LD: Needs Militia's Pride.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:12 am

Mobilization is crap. Try Sacred Mesa.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:59 pm

@ [card]Mind's Eye[/card]: It's a great mana sink, and a card that can go in any deck, but I have other sources of card advantage and would prefer synergy.

@ Sublime Archangel: I think this is a trap card. You attack with one big, stupid dummie instead of swarming, then it gets removed.

@ Elspeth, Knight-Errant: Only one token a turn, but Emblem is pretty relevant. I don't know. What do other people think?

@ [card]Militia's Pride[/card]: No sure I have enough non-token creatures to make this not a dead card.

@ Mobilization: I have lots of Soldiers and it's cheaper than Heliod. Maybe it should just be Heliod.

@ Sacred Mesa: What am I not getting about this card? You can't play it before T5, if you do play it on 5, there's a very good change of blow out. It ties up two mana a turn to keep it around, but by T7 + is it really that out of hand?

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:34 pm

@ Sacred Mesa: What am I not getting about this card? You can't play it before T5, if you do play it on 5, there's a very good change of blow out. It ties up two mana a turn to keep it around, but by T7 + is it really that out of hand?
You can play it on turn 3. It costs two mana during your next upkeep, yeah. But look at it and Mobilization. In the end, you get 50% more tokens for your mana.

Also, the tokens fly. That's not insubstantial.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:06 pm

@ Sacred Mesa: What am I not getting about this card? You can't play it before T5, if you do play it on 5, there's a very good change of blow out. It ties up two mana a turn to keep it around, but by T7 + is it really that out of hand?
You can play it on turn 3. It costs two mana during your next upkeep, yeah. But look at it and Mobilization. In the end, you get 50% more tokens for your mana.

Also, the tokens fly. That's not insubstantial.
Sorry, I momentarily Derped and forgot how magic works. Untap THEN upkeep. Fml.


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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:09 pm

Luminarch Ascension should probably be in there somewhere too.

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Nov 05, 2014 6:15 pm

Luminarch Ascension is a bad card in EDH.

Sure, it's usually active once around the table. It's also a huge fucking target on your face.
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Postby Stardust » Wed Nov 05, 2014 7:52 pm

I agree with Dechs. That card is too powerful, but not quite powerful enough.
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Postby Purp » Wed Nov 05, 2014 8:42 pm

Generals in my playgroup (Granted it consist of about 4-6 people): Oona, 5 Color Walkers (doubling season, usually wins with tutor into omniscience/enter the infinite), Prosph, Narset, Captain Sissay, Derevi, Khalia, Erebos, Zirilen, Hanna, Nin, Animar, Azusa, Krenko, Oloro, Slivers, Skithryx, Ravenous Rats deck.

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:15 pm

Luminarch Ascension is a bad card in EDH.

Sure, it's usually active once around the table. It's also a huge fucking target on your face.
Hard for me to not be targeted anyway, but I get you.

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Postby Christen » Wed Nov 05, 2014 11:42 pm

Niv-Mizzet too boring for a general?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:18 am

I played Teferi as a general once upon a time.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Mcdonalds » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:55 am

I play Griselbrand as a general because France is weird.

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Postby hamfactorial » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:17 am

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Postby Valdarith » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:37 am

I want the red commander deck badly. My LGS sold out of all the commander decks before I could ask for a reservation, so it looks like I'll be taking a trip to the local Wal-Mart Friday morning.
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:38 am

I was already building Kurkesh as my second commander, so the fact that they printed this new red deck is awesome. I think I'd rather play Derevi though.
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Postby TBuzzsaw » Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:37 am

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:38 am

Niv-Mizzet too boring for a general?
Depends which one.

If you're going to go UR, I suggest Tibor and Lumia
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Postby Jack » Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:50 pm

Firemind is fun. He can play a lot of wheel effects, and because your deck is really just wheel effects, combo pieces, draw spells and a few value cards, you can just wheel away most hands after playing combo pieces because that's mostly what you care about finding.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:01 pm

Nekusar is the wheel guy now.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:58 pm

Why is it that no one takes me seriously when I suggest shipping something via Zeppelin?
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Postby Purp » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:46 pm

Nivmizzet is ok. UR is just not that powerful in a competitive playgroup.

Val, don't play Derevi...don't be that guy! Well it depends on how you build him, but the guy in my playgroup used to play T3 Winter Orb lock combo, until we basically told him to stop being gay.
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Postby Purp » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:54 pm

Trying to decide what deck to start grinding with in Standard for the PTQ season... It's between jeskai, RW burn, RW Tokens/burn and heroic. There are 8 PPTQs in Georgia, I am hoping to hit every one of them and spike that bitch.
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Postby BlakLanner » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:01 pm

Unless the meta truly hates it out, I will be on Jeskai for the entirety of this season. The deck just calls to me.
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:06 pm

Nivmizzet is ok. UR is just not that powerful in a competitive playgroup.

Val, don't play Derevi...don't be that guy! Well it depends on how you build him, but the guy in my playgroup used to play T3 Winter Orb lock combo, until we basically told him to stop being gay.
I'd be a valuetown build. I don't like turn 3-4 combo decks in what's supposed to be a casual format. That's what Modern and Legacy is for.
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Postby Purp » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:22 pm

Nivmizzet is ok. UR is just not that powerful in a competitive playgroup.

Val, don't play Derevi...don't be that guy! Well it depends on how you build him, but the guy in my playgroup used to play T3 Winter Orb lock combo, until we basically told him to stop being gay.
I'd be a valuetown build. I don't like turn 3-4 combo decks in what's supposed to be a casual format. That's what Modern and Legacy is for.
I understand this line of thinking, and unless your playgroup is ALL of the same mindset....you will be losing a lot. Doing broken things in commander is more fun than watching someone else do them.
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Nov 06, 2014 5:17 pm

Playgroup has similar mindset. There's a gentleman's agreement on what floats and what doesn't.

But hey, you said "don't be that guy." :D All of our decks can do broken things. They can also win in the first few turns of the game, but not consistently. I've played Grave Titan on turn two before, but things like that happen irregularly.
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Postby Tyrael » Thu Nov 06, 2014 6:26 pm

Does anyone here have access to SCG premium? I wanted to see Tom Ross' new U/W Heroic list :(
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Postby Purp » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:45 pm

[deck]
Creatures (20)

4 Battlewise Hoplite
4 Favored Hoplite
3 Heliod's Pilgrim
4 Hero Of Iroas
3 Seeker of the Way
2 Eidolon of Countless Battles
Lands (22)

2 Island
9 Plains
4 Flooded Strand
1 Mana Confluence
4 Temple of Enlightenment
2 Tranquil Cove
Spells (18)

1 Aqueous Form
1 Ordeal of Heliod
4 Ordeal of Thassa
1 Singing Bell Strike
1 Stratus Walk
4 Defiant Strike
2 Feat of Resistance
4 Gods Willing
Sideboard

1 Heliod's Pilgrim
2 Lagonna-Band Trailblazer
1 Seeker of the Way
1 Aqueous Form
1 Ordeal of Heliod
1 Singing Bell Strike
2 Ajani's Presence
1 Erase
3 Stubborn Denial
2 Treasure Cruise
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Postby Valdarith » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:58 pm

I'm fond of the Ascendancy Heroic deck. Might even start playing it.
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Postby Tyrael » Thu Nov 06, 2014 8:34 pm

Purp you are a god

Also, Heliod's Pilgrim is such a great addition to that list

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Postby Valdarith » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:06 pm

So the foil Young Pyromancer I bought a couple of months ago jumped from $12 to $45...
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Thu Nov 06, 2014 9:16 pm

People don't realize Barnes and Noble sells Magic cards. If you have them in your area, go check them out. Last year, I made several trips to five and picked up seven of the Esper ones, a month AFTER they've been out.
Wasn't Grixis the expensive one?


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