Boros Burn 2.0

[Platypus]

And replaced with...?

[Khaospawn]

A card that isn't garbage.

[Khaospawn]

Maybe Phoenix or Chandra

Hell, maybe even Magma Spray

Anything would be better than DP

[Platypus]

Let's figure it out. I'm most likely to play this at GP Stockholm.

Why isn't DP cutting it? Just too reactive?

[Khaospawn]

Too reactive

I feel like I'm playing with a 58 card main deck

[Khaospawn]

Other than DP, I'm extremely happy with the other 73 cards and my sideboard configuration

[Khaospawn]

I scrumped hard at States today, finishing 4-3

I lost to GR Monsters, some weird Delve deck, and Jeskai. All the losses were very close

#scrumplyfe

[Khaospawn]

[Purp]

Went 5-1-1 making top 8, then lost first round to a guy I beat in Swiss. We split the packs(24 each). Deck was legit. Rabblemaster easily the worst card in the list I ran.

[Khaospawn]

Good stuff, Purp

[NotARobot]

Went 5-1-1 making top 8, then lost first round to a guy I beat in Swiss. We split the packs(24 each). Deck was legit. Rabblemaster easily the worst card in the list I ran.

Mind posting the list?

[Purp]

On my phone excuse my lack of typing the full card name.

[deck]
4 swiftspear
4 seeker
4 rabble
2 ash cloud

2 Chandra

4 magma jet
4 lightning strike
4 searing blood
4 stoke
1 arch lightning
1 deflecting palm
3 chained

11 mountain
2 plains
4 forge
4 temple
1 wind scarred
1 mana confluence

SB
1 banishing light
1 chain
1 mountain
1 temple of silence
2 stormbreath
3 hushwing
1 deflecting palm
1 arc lightning
2 glare
2 erase
[/deck]

Went 4-0 vs Mardu midrange variants
1-1 junk aggro list from pro your (wingmate roc is really good in doubles)
0-1 gb dredge midrange... Nemesis is a bitch

Top 8 was: RW burn, red heroic ( deck looked real good), Jeskai tempo, RW control (also looked very good), 2 junk - 1 more aggro, (I can describe this when I get on a computer if someone wants) the other was a more midrange value creatures, 1 gb dredge and gr monsters playing rabble.

Rabble is the worst card in the deck.

[NotARobot]

Too reactive

I feel like I'm playing with a 58 card main deck

Could try 2x god's willing? Its working for Watanabe today

[Zooligan]

Rabble is the worst card in the deck.

What can go in it's place? The phoenix? Stormbreath? Both skew the curve up. Something white?

[Purp]

Probably -2 rabble +2 hushwing. Arc lightning becomes titans str or gods willing.

[Khaospawn]

Thanks, Maverick. I was actually about to do the same myself, but you beat me to it. Looks like you got it all down.

[Khaospawn]

Brad Nelson said, "Goblin Rabblemaster is easily the worst card in the deck."

[Purp]

I said it first.

[Khaospawn]

Yeah, but nobody believed it until Brad said it.

[Khaospawn]

I kid. I know you said it first.

[rcwraspy]

Dpaine won MA states with this today. I played it too but to a 21st place finish.

[Khaospawn]

Good for him. Which version of Boros Burn?

[rcwraspy]

Swiftspear seeker rabblemaster. 2 Chandra main and 1-1 md-sb split on Palm. Rest fairly stock I believe.

[Khaospawn]

Good deal.

[dpaine88]

Yep....what he said. Split the finals at states to get the mat cause I'm not going to NJ.

7 rounds, like 68 people?

Played the following decks
G/b devotion -- Win
Jeskai "Tempo"--- Win
Jeskia "Tempo"-- Win
Jeskai Control--- Win
Mardu midrange-- loss
RUG Monsters-- win
Draw into top8

Top8 G/r devotion
Top4 Rematch from swiss loss vs Mardu Midrange.
finals split.

Deck felt so much smoother than Jeskai.

Palm didnt do whole lot for me either to be honest. I did use it on a Stoke and that was pretty sweet.

Another pretty sweet play from the top4 vs Mardu

This is like turn 4

Opponent is at 12 life plays Rabble and passes.

I have 2 Swiftspears out and cast 2 Searing blood to swing for 12 exact...it was pretty amazing.

[NotARobot]

What was your list?

Also, congrats dude thats awesome!

[dpaine88]

[deck]
4x Lightning Strike
4x Magma Jet
4x Searing Blood
4x Stoke the Flames
4x Chained to the Rocks
2x Chandra, Pyromaster
1x Deflecting Palm
3x Arc Lightning


4x Seeker of the Way
4x Goblin Rabblemaster
4x Monastery Swiftspear

4x Temple of Triumph
1x Wind-scarred crag
4x Battlefield Forge
11x Mountain
2x Plains


Sideboard
2x Ashcloud Phoenix
1x Deflecting Palm
2x Erase
3x Hushwing Gryff
1x Magma Spray
4x Satyr Firedancer
2x Suspension Field
[/deck]



Searing Blood is really really good.

[Jamie]

Can you give some insight on Suspension field over banishing light?
or are they just two incomparable cards?

[stuffydollfan]

Hello guys,

Took the deck to states and went 5-2 and finished in 13th place. One of the games i lost was due to drawing too many lands. The other game was against a straight up blue/white control deck. Aside from the game where i drew too many lands, they all felt like i had a good chance.

I still have mixed feelings with DP. On on hand, it did do some nice work, but a good amount of the time it was pretty dead. Also agree that the Rabblemaster has been the weak link in here. Sure he could blow out games but 99% of the time he does nothing. Im gonna start testing out Prophetic Flamespeaker in its place. To me it seems that guy might be a better fit here. With all the burn we run, the only creature he gets walled hard by is the caryatid.

[deck]4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Seeker of the Way

2 Chandra, Pyromaster
1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker

3 Chained to the Rocks
2 Deflecting Palm
4 Lightning Strike
4 Magma Jet
3 Searing Blood
2 Banishing Light
4 Stoke the Flames

4 Battlefield Forge
1 Evolving Wild
12 Mountain
2 Plains
4 Temple of Triumph


Sideboard:
2 Arc Lightning
2 Ashcloud Phoenix
1 Chained to the Rocks
1 Erase
2 Glare of Heresy
2 Harness by Force
1 Hammer of Purphoros
4 Hushwing Gryff[/deck]

[dpaine88]

damnit this DP thing keeps messing me up...keep thinking you are reffering to me by my initials like a lot of people do lol

Suspension field was just cause 99% of banishing light targets are big green guys and courser and it hits both for one less mana.

[rcwraspy]

Congrats Dan!!

[Zooligan]

Probably -2 rabble +2 hushwing. Arc lightning becomes titans str or gods willing.

Why not ditch them altogether for 4 grif?

Or what about Brimaz? Is he too white? I know he's too pricey!

Here's a wacky thought - Anax and Cymede - 3/2 first striker with vigilance for 1RW

[Toddington]

Anax and Cymede seems like it could be great in Brad Nelson's list, or any other list with Hordeling Outburst. [card]Titan's Strength[/card] and Gods Willing aren't embarrassing to play as Heroic enablers.

[DriftingLifted]

How much work does ride down do, in the current expected Abzan meta is it good enough for the main? Been out of constructed Magic for a few months, this might be the deck that gets me back in.

[Purp]

-4 Rabblemaster +4 hushwing

[rcwraspy]

in the main? not really a fan. I like 4 hushwing in the board against a good number of matchups but game 1 Rabblemaster can just take over.

[Purp]

in the main? not really a fan. I like 4 hushwing in the board against a good number of matchups but game 1 Rabblemaster can just take over.

I get that it "can", but it rarely does. Junk will be on the rise, which rabble is terrible against. Play 2/2 split if you'd like, but I am convinced 4 rabblemasters is wrong.

[NotARobot]

-4 Rabblemaster +4 hushwing

Whats your extra 4 SB then? Extra banishing lights for whips / ascendancies, ect? Maybe eidolon of the great revel for mirrors / jeskai ?

[rcwraspy]

in the main? not really a fan. I like 4 hushwing in the board against a good number of matchups but game 1 Rabblemaster can just take over.

I get that it "can", but it rarely does. Junk will be on the rise, which rabble is terrible against. Play 2/2 split if you'd like, but I am convinced 4 rabblemasters is wrong.

We play RW Burn for its consistency. Take advantage of that. We can actually cast our powerful 3-drop on curve while other decks are still fumbling over their mana.

[TptBahamut]

A million times what RW said. Built one of the jeskai lists in the top 8, and played a few eight mans... certain draws are ridiculous, but I stumbled over mana in most of my games, playing things behind curve and just couldn't keep up vs a variety of things. Go back to my modified Boros Burn, and it's consistency is great, and power level isn't -all- that far behind.

That said, rabble is still a fence call. I see merits for both directions.