[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

Jack · Postby **Jack** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 12:45 pm

http://themeadery.org/articles/format-s ... f-standard

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 2:54 pm

It's been ONE FUCKING WEEK!

Didn't take much testing to notice the problems with the format.

Oh, and 100 copies of Hexproof Plant in the top 25 decks of the open in Indy.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:08 pm

Format obviously has room for exploration (if it doesn't then they will ban courser and caryatid and then it will). There just seems to be a few gaping holes in this format.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:19 pm

Namely, 2 cc Doom Blade variant, 4cc sweeper, and a good Mana Leak variant.

Without those things, green midrange / ramp will flourish because the other decks don't have the tools to keep them in check.

You can play all the 3cc+ removal, but then you can't deal with the one random aggro deck in the room who didn't get the memo that the format is hostile. I like that the aggro decks can snipe and I wouldn't be suprised to see them win.

It's just a really slow and weird format without things we're accustomed to. I don't feel after playing it a bit it was good to go in that direction.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:37 pm

This is mostly just a lack of exploration at work. It's similar to the start of the last format when RDW was so much better then everything else before people built mono-black and mono-blue.

This format will feel terrible to some until someone builds a good control deck and brings balance to the force.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:38 pm

I really hate R+D for not putting a doom blade in this standard.

Murderous Cut

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:57 pm

I really hate R+D for not putting a doom blade in this standard.
Murderous Cut

It's good, but has the same flexibility issues as 3cc removal. It is too slow vs aggro.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:59 pm

This is mostly just a lack of exploration at work. It's similar to the start of the last format when RDW was so much better then everything else before people built mono-black and mono-blue.

This format will feel terrible to some until someone builds a good control deck and brings balance to the force.

I hope you're right, but I think it's a tall order without those three effects I mentioned.

BlakLanner · Postby **BlakLanner** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:27 pm

We are at our low point for sets in Standard. We will explore and find our options or wait for the next set to fill in the gaps.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:57 pm

4 months though...

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:32 pm

Gonna play a Zem brew at states today. Fonna get punished, but YOLO.

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:33 pm

@dolt:You could just brew a deck

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:34 pm

I miss Resto. and thragtusk

that was a good standard

Stay salty

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:54 pm

I did brew, but it's missing the doom blade it needs to be viable lol

When is the Pro Tour?

BlakLanner · Postby **BlakLanner** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 5:54 pm

Next weekend

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:37 pm

Sam Pardee is 16-0 with Jeskai Ascendancy Modern Combo? lolz

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:38 pm

I played against the Ascendancy Combo in Standard and it took for fucking ever. It was like playing against eggs

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 6:43 pm

That's in dailys on MODO, but still.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:17 pm

MTGO Dailies matter

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:18 pm

why do you call it MODO, you only recently tried the program, the name MODO should mean nothing to you

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:34 pm

In his defense it is much easier to say.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:38 pm

he deserves no defending

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:44 pm

The correct answer is Kirk

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 7:52 pm

Spam is definitely the biggest trek fan on the site

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:03 pm

I tend to Picard but Kirk is definitely entertaining

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Oct 04, 2014 8:47 pm

Picard.

dpaine88 · Postby **dpaine88** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:24 am

Had to chime in here and say that Jeskai Bun is the fuckin real deal.

Went 5-0 at FNM then 5-0-2 at States to split top4.

Well positioned right now and honestly not even sure what bad matchups are besides multiple Seige Rhino.

If you are looking for a deck still and liked Boros Burn at all last season, I HIGHLY recommend it.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 12:31 am

Lost round 1 of the daily to Infect, feeling good about life. Dude opened both games with Noble Hierarch into Infect dude + Forest into pump spells all day. Can't even be mad (but I am)

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:22 am

Beat that Jeskai Ascendancy combo deck with the quickness in round 2. Thanks, Eidolon of the Great Revel!

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:22 am

ITT: liveblogging the daily

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 1:35 am

Up against that Gifts reanimator deck, why can't these cunts play something reasonable?

DerWille · Postby **DerWille** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:01 am

http://themeadery.org/articles/format-s ... f-standard

“The Caryatids are really there to set up the most powerful play in Standard,” said Standish. “Turn-one Forest. Turn-two Caryatid. Turn-three Courser, followed by a land drop. Bam. Chicken: It’s what’s for dinner.”

Fuck man, I'm converted.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:03 am

once when kaze up and left

the second time when zemanjanski would hang out with us in GRRR and generally be a cool dude but then when he got a sliver of mtg internet fame and we razzed him about it he got his feathers ruffled and never visited GRRR again

It wasn't you guys so much as it was work increasing the demand for my time, pip moving in and wanting to travel to play mtg more. Sadly I'm left with little time for the exploits of clock king.

Still have time for madding though

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:04 am

You need a damn good reason not to play courser, caryatid and nissa right now.

dpaine88 · Postby **dpaine88** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:57 am

You need a damn good reason not to play courser, caryatid and nissa right now.

Burn is back man. Been owning those green decks so far.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 2:59 am

I 7-0-1'd my first event of new standard; we split top 4 and the three other decks we're burn so you may be right. I just find the mana base so unappealing.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:00 am

I played BUG to beat all the junk Junk decks. Worked like a charm.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:01 am

People have forgotten that Silence the Believers is the truth.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:07 am

Just play Treasure Cruise decks in all formats.

zemanjaski · Postby **zemanjaski** » Sun Oct 05, 2014 3:27 am

4 thoughtseize
1 Despise
4 caryatid
3 bile blight
3 sultai charm
4 downfall
4 courser
1 sidisi
3 kiora
2 silence the believers
4 nissa, world waker
3 treasure cruise
4 opulent palace
4 temple of malady
3 temple of deceit
4 yavimaya coast
4 llanowar waste
1 urborg
2 swamp
2 forest
SB
4 drown in sorrow
4 disdainful stroke
2 negate
3 pharikas cure
1 silence the believers
1 unravel the aether

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