[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Lightning_Dolt]

Why are mom and dad fighting?

[Kaitscralt]

Zem I tested your BUG list. Kiora underperformed, would probably prefer a couple Prog Sphinx in that spot or some other creatures / utility.

[RedNihilist]

Kait what are youi playing post-rotation?
Serious question here.

[Kaitscralt]

No idea. I was testing burn but haven't been impressed with the manabase.

[RedNihilist]

Got it, thanks.

[Kaitscralt]

I like the way Standard is shaping up enough that I won't mind just jumping onboard Junk or whatever other deck is at the top

[redthirst]

Here's something I threw together, LP, and a buddy of mine has been testing - he seems pretty impressed with the deck's ability to run over slower decks:

4 Firedrinker Satyr
4 Frenzied Goblin
4 Monastery Swiftspear
4 Eidelon of the Great Revel
4 Borderland Marauder
3 War-Name Aspirant
4 Goblin Rabblemaster

4 Hammerhand
2 Crowd's Favor
4 Titan's Strength
4 Lightning Strike

19 Mountain

I haven't gotten a chance to test it myself, but he said that Crowd's Favor was often a decent surprise when you're tapped out and the threat of it was able to force bad blocks after he played the first - he told me his favorite play was when he could play Satyr or Swiftspear turn 1, tap out for Marauder or Eidelon turn 2, swing into a Caryatid and kill it with a completely unexpected Crowd's Favor. After that his opponent would often not bother to block his one drop whether he was tapped out or not.

Not really
sure on a SB besides 4 Arc Lightning and possibly a few land + Phoenix.

Feel free to run it through a few paces - I'd love to hear about your experience with the list since it'll probably be another couple of weeks before I can get around to actually testing anything.

[RedNihilist]

On the other hand I'm discussing with the other local players and everybody seems to enjoy this new format, yet I feel like that we'll end up starting the season with RabbleMaster.dec vs Courser.dec.
I guess I'll try out Silvestri's Pod or some Big Boros.

[Kaitscralt]

I like playing with powerful cards and this sets creatures are that

[Khaospawn]

Why are mom and dad fighting?

Alex has been very negative lately

[Second Harkius]

No idea. I was testing burn

No idea. I was testing burn

No idea. I was testing burn

[Kaitscralt]

[Yarpus]

God, Red sucks these days. At least in Standard.
All you can build in regard of Aggro is pump-sligh which is... unstable.
When your best card is Minotaur Skullfucker... I mean Skullcleaver, you know something went really, really wrong.

[Valdarith]

Um...

Goblin Rabblemaster?

[dpaine88]

Been a long time since I ventured out of the Boros Burn forum but here I am!

Just wanted to chime in and say I really don't think a red 2-drop is viable in the B/r lists.

Consistency is always the issue with 2-3 color aggro decks and getting your splash color turn 2 is not going to happen consistently.

I think keeping as many of the early drops in the primary color and splashing for cards you either A) don't need on curve always Ie: Lightning Strike or B) are 3-drops or higher ie: Rabblemaster.


Additionally- I found Mardu Skullhunter to be quite good in the 2drop spot. He is almost a 2-for-1 really. He instantly trades with a card when he comes into play and if he does anymore damage or trades with a creature , you got some really nice value out of him.

[Kaitscralt]

Skullhunter is pretty good. Bw with Chief and Sorin or Ajani seems as good or better than Br.

[Purp]

Red gives you the tools to beat red decks, which you lose to as a straight mono b deck, and I can't imagine how much better white would be. Ajani doesn't do much if my creatures are all getting burned out.

[Valdarith]

So I just remembered that Ember Swallower is a Magic card. Seems to line up pretty well against all the 4/4s in the format (Savage Knuckleblade, Anafenza the Foremost, Siege Rhino, Polis Crusher, Fanatic of Xenagos).

[Purp]

I forgot Fanatic of Xenagos was a magic card.

[Kaitscralt]

Red gives you the tools to beat red decks, which you lose to as a straight mono b deck, and I can't imagine how much better white would be. Ajani doesn't do much if my creatures are all getting burned out.

I haven't seen a red aggro deck yet that I am convinced is competitive at all against Junk, and Sorin has been very strong in testing

[Valdarith]

I forgot Fanatic of Xenagos was a magic card.

I think it's pretty well-positioned early in the format. RGx decks in general are going to be good, and turn two Fanatic is a LOT easier to cast than turn two Knuckles. Trample is also relevant if you're running Boon Satyr.

[Purp]

Red gives you the tools to beat red decks, which you lose to as a straight mono b deck, and I can't imagine how much better white would be. Ajani doesn't do much if my creatures are all getting burned out.

I haven't seen a red aggro deck yet that I am convinced is competitive at all against Junk, and Sorin has been very strong in testing

Solid point, I have yet to test Sorin so my opinion may be misinformed. I really do like Solider of Pnatheon heading forward, I am curious how much damage you would have to do to yourself to be able to play either soldier or
bloodsoaked champion on t1 consistentlty.

[Purp]

Grim Haruspex also seems somewhat of a sleeper.

[Khaospawn]

Anybody remember Z's old Sledge Red with 25 lands, Thundermaw, and Devil's Play? I'm wondering if that deck can be somewhat recreated with today's card pool

We have craters claw for the X spell and getting the Ferocious part should be easy enough with Stormbreath and Ashcloud Phoenix

[Khaospawn]

Val brings up Ember Swallower too

It could be Sledge Red material

[Kaitscralt]

You don't need to play Soldier in BW although I suppose you could try

[Purp]

a bunch of magic league decks on tcg today, interesting lists:

mardu tokens

[deck]2 Brimaz, King of Oreskos
2 Butcher of the Horde
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
1 Purphoros, God of the Forge
Creatures [9]
2 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
Planeswalkers [2]
4 Dictate of Heliod
4 Hordeling Outburst
4 Lightning Strike
4 Mardu Charm
4 Raise the Alarm
4 Stoke the Flames
Spells [24]
4 Battlefield Forge
2 Bloodstained Mire
4 Caves of Koilos
4 Mana Confluence
2 Mountain
4 Nomad Outpost
1 Swamp
4 Temple of Triumph[/deck]


BW

[deck]4 Bloodsoaked Champion
4 Gnarled Scarhide
4 Herald of Torment
4 Mogis's Marauder
4 Pain Seer
3 Spiteful Returned
4 Tormented Hero
Creatures [27]
3 Sorin, Solemn Visitor
Planeswalkers [3]
1 Hall of Triumph
4 Hero's Downfall
3 Thoughtseize
Spells [8]
4 Caves of Koilos
1 Plains
12 Swamp
4 Temple of Silence
1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth[/deck]

[Jedi_Knight]

I want a bwr list with champion and butcher but i am lazy as shit to do the writeup. Don't like Brimaz at all in these decks. Either way that's what I am gonna play.

[Kaitscralt]

The Maz stands alone

[Pedros]

I want a bwr list with champion and butcher but i am lazy as shit to do the writeup. Don't like Brimaz at all in these decks. Either way that's what I am gonna play.

Something similar to mine ideas I posted before

[hamfactorial]

The Maz stands alone

dat maz

[Kaitscralt]

bloodsoaked champion might be the best creature in the set

[Alex]

>make post to highlight fellow FoS member.
>Zem makes idiotic post trying to shortsell said member
>call him out for being a dickwad
>"Alex is so negative!"
>


It's like you guys actually believe he's infallible or something.

[Kaitscralt]

well he does get 2 unedited CFB articles a year

[hamfactorial]

>make post to highlight fellow FoS member.
>Zem makes idiotic post trying to shortsell said member
>call him out for being a dickwad
>"Alex is so negative!"
>


It's like you guys actually believe he's infallible or something.

It's k boss he's just jelly I'm on the DTR front page.

[Khaospawn]

>make post to highlight fellow FoS member.
>Zem makes idiotic post trying to shortsell said member
>call him out for being a dickwad
>"Alex is so negative!"
>


It's like you guys actually believe he's infallible or something.

Do you think this post is a positive one? Cuz its not.

Also, what does it matter what the rest of the world may or may not think of James? Obviously we know how you feel about him, or more specifically, how you feel about the internet perceiving him.

[Khaospawn]

Do you need a hug, Alex?

[Second Harkius]

>make post to highlight fellow FoS member.
>Zem makes idiotic post trying to shortsell said member
>call him out for being a dickwad
>"Alex is so negative!"
>


It's like you guys actually believe he's infallible or something.

don't worry, like most 'semi-pros' who only win a big tournament every two years or so, Zem's demigod status among the scrumps here will soon fade.

[Second Harkius]

in the meantime try not to ragequit as they worship him.

[Alex]

>make post to highlight fellow FoS member.
>Zem makes idiotic post trying to shortsell said member
>call him out for being a dickwad
>"Alex is so negative!"
>


It's like you guys actually believe he's infallible or something.

It's k boss he's just jelly I'm on the DTR front page.

#madeit