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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:00 am

I apologise for the fb comment. I did like our chats.

In summary (because I'm at work and should be working):
- I expect reverence from no one. It actually makes me very uncomfortable, and it's been awkward taking pictures with people at events, signing cards, whatever. I may act like an elitist dickhead but that's to cover up insecurities (strong face to the world etc), not because I actually think I'm special.

- I really didn't like all the PMs and other contact for deck advice. I felt is made UR clear that I didn't have the time, had already made available by thoughts or add nothing to add. Perhaps I should have been more clear. We both cracked the sads and we shouldn't have.

- that people with actual accomplishments from another country don't know who I am is completely fine with me; I'm a nobody in global magic.
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Postby magicdownunder » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:22 am

Anything one think the new Sorin is just want BW needs to be competitive in Modern?

I'm thinking that you could just run Rack Rats, Bitter Blossom and Lingering Souls as threats with 2-3 Sorin + tons of discards (+ Lilly) with removal?
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:26 am

Nope.

BW is close to a deck, but new Sorin isn't as good as old Sorin.
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Postby magicdownunder » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:27 am

Darn it.... I really need to ask, anyone played Dead Guy Ale before? What is that deck missing? I figure it was life-loss or something.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:29 am

It doesn't seem amazing to me. Good when you're already ahead. Seems worse the Lord of Innistrad.

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:29 am

Darn it.... I really need to ask, anyone played Dead Guy Ale before? What is that deck missing? I figure it was life-loss or something.
in legacy?

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Postby magicdownunder » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:31 am

In Modern, I hate legacy, dying before reaching T1 three times in an event isn't fun - lets not speak about legacy :p
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:35 am

No experience with it in modern.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:40 am

Bw is a deck in mOdern. Just pretend your playing jund with a token there and you'll do fine.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:42 am

Yup.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:59 am

This is the modern deck I've been messing around with:

[deck]Mardu Midrange[/deck]
Been wanting to make a Mardu beats deck for Modern but Red, white and black lack the aggressive beater as Goyf or Scavenging Ooze. Playing Ham's Boros Deck and if it does not pan out I may switch to Jund or attempt a Mardu build also.
You have slightly more control and can take ove the game with Olivia once you've shredded their hand. It's likely worse than Jund / Junk, but I like it.

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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:59 am

New Sorin isn't amazing, but comparing him to the old one is pretty useless.
Not when we're discussing modern.

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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:05 am

Well... Zedruu has a contender...
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:22 am

What the hell is Zedruu?

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Postby Jack » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:59 am

Well... Zedruu has a contender...
Ruhan has a contender. Zedruu had her niche cut out from the start.
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Postby Jack » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:01 am

And by contender I mean replacement.
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Postby rcwraspy » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:27 am

Everyone else plays when they can, but me and everyone else I mentioned along with myself are the only ones who actually travel to big events semi-regularly while also having realistic ambitions of doing well.
DPaine is a good player, can expect to win any Standard event he attends, and plays tournament magic very regularly.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:46 am

No one expects to win any tournament they enter. He is a strong play though.
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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:15 am

Hillariously the only card he had trouble finding (at least the first time he played the deck) was piracy charm.
He was gonna play a deck that wasn't Infect but couldn't get the cards, can't remember which deck
Ah, didn't watch the coverage, I just knew that little bit was true

Prolly involved some legends enchantments because based on some of the people who play with him (one of the guys I played with at the last scg claimed to know him/possibly be in his play group and was playing D&T and his buddy was playing Merfolk and seemed like he knew what was up) and
the fact he is an scg writer and likely would have no problem with getting any commonly played card

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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:26 am

There are competitive non blue decks in legacy like Death and Taxes and Painters servant.
Jund and Loam (Loam barely qualifies as a blue deck, given it's nominally a green strategy splashing r/u/b) are the only other ones, TNN and the changes it brought with it to the format hurt (less to do with the card, which I feel most decks can find ways to answer it, but what it's done to the meta game largely) pretty much most other decks chance of competing, Maverick cannot beat miracles, Goblins has a helluva time with Hymn to tourach backed with Goyf.

Sure, legacy enthusiaists would throw around that there are several decks that remain unexplored/untuned (I actually think there is probably a viable zoo shell, just no one wants to brew it)
but honestly why brew when Delver is blue and beats the shit out of you and brainstorm DRAWS 3 FUCKING CARDS :/

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Postby Alex » Wed Sep 03, 2014 5:55 am

I always go into events expecting to win because that's the right attitude to have, but when that doesn't become a reality I'm willing to use the experience as a learning device. :shrug:

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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:09 am

Hillariously the only card he had trouble finding (at least the first time he played the deck) was piracy charm.
He was gonna play a deck that wasn't Infect but couldn't get the cards, can't remember which deck
Ah, didn't watch the coverage, I just knew that little bit was true

Prolly involved some legends enchantments because based on some of the people who play with him (one of the guys I played
with at the last scg claimed to know him/possibly be in his play group and was playing D&T and his buddy was playing Merfolk and seemed like he knew what was up) and the fact he is an scg writer and likely would have no problem with getting any commonly played card
Tom Ross wanted to play Mono Red Sneak Attack.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:22 am

Wasn't sure if that was serious or just trollng
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:47 am

He said so when they interviewed him
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Postby Khaospawn » Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:49 am

He convinced Brad Nelson to play it, but had trouble finding some obscure card for the deck, so he jammed Infect instead.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:40 am

Tom Glistener Elf Toss
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:44 am

Damn dude time for a new Nathan Holiday article at CFB, will not open until they redo that pic from a flattering selfie angle
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:24 pm

Well... Zedruu has a contender...
Ruhan has a contender. Zedruu had her niche cut out from the start.
You haven't seen my Zedruu. I really think I could swap her out though, for this new one. I mean, almost the entire deck is non-creature spells.
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Postby Purp » Wed Sep 03, 2014 1:51 pm

They are trying really hard to make RUG Chord happen.
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Postby magicdownunder » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:35 pm

They are trying really hard to make RUG Chord happen.
This pleases me :D
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Postby Valdarith » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:11 pm

Who is "they"? CFB? SCG? WOTC?
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Postby Purp » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:22 pm

SCG, TCG and CFB..
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Postby Valdarith » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:32 pm

Yeah, they certainly are, but in their defense it's a really cool deck. It's not tier one by any means but it's great fun to have before rotation.
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Postby Purp » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:41 pm

Seth Manfield's article today brought up a really good point about the strength of Courser. As red decks, we need to prepare to be able to to deal with t2/3 coursers into polukronos.
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Postby Alex » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:45 pm

I'm going to prepare for that by playing better colors. I hear Black is pretty good.

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Postby BlakLanner » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:47 pm

I am working on RUG Chord and am having a blast with it. It definitely has some holes in the plan but is a breath of fresh air in a stale environment.
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Postby Alex » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:50 pm

I'd probably play Jund Chord. The black removal is too good to ignore, but so is Stormbreath Dragon.

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Postby BlakLanner » Wed Sep 03, 2014 3:52 pm

Jund is an option. The only blue cards are turn/burn, aetherling, negate, and staticaster.

Edit - Oh, and Keranos. That one is big.
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