[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[Lightning_Dolt]

No use for Delver or YP$?

Let's apply critical analysis before we post!

No.

Looks like I rolled a 5.

[zemanjaski]

You need to take some ownership of asking without thinking.

[magicdownunder]

I wonder what wizard was thinking when they reprinted Back to Nature for standard.... kill all hope for Bx Aggro or G enchantment decks post-rotations lowering my free wins and stuff .

[TBuzzsaw]

Back to Nature kills and rapes my Hexproof deck.

Time to switch back to burn or to Mono Green Devotion.

[Yarpus]

This card is really fucking good.

[Khaospawn]

Dang! They put a Meteorite in this set!

[Khaospawn]

Riding rollercoasters all day at Busch Gardens.

Joygasm.

[PirateKingAtomsk]

pillar of light looks nice 2w instant exile target creature toughness 4 or greater

[Kaitscralt]

looks like black definitely got shit on this core set, which i am fine with considering its recent reign

[Elricity]

pillar of light looks nice 2w instant exile target creature toughness 4 or greater

Far better than reprisal right now in the meta as far as creatures it hits vs misses

[Lightning_Dolt]

You need to take some ownership of asking without thinking.

I did think. My thought process was, good decks in modern often come from mashing together two existing strategies (kiki control and tarmo twin are two that come to me off the top of my head). Your colours support it and your spell count is very high.

Something like this is what I had in mind.

[deck]Creatures (14)
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
2 Vendilion Clique

Enchantments (3)
3 Blood Moon

Spells (18)
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Serum Visions
3 Spell Snare
3 Mana Leak
3 Remand
3 Electrolyze
2 Cryptic Command

Lands (23)
1 Desolate Lighthouse
8 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Steam Vents
2 Sulfur Falls[/deck]

nNow you can feel free to call that decklist terrible, but I think it's worth at least thinking about possibilities, rather than just immediately discarding them. Either way, The deck list you proposed (to me) is missing something, and that's what I was trying to point out. If you don't like the suggestion of Delver / YP$, what about adding Splinter Twin, Deceiver Exarch, Kiki or Pestermite? You deck basically seems like this deck without the combo: http://www.mtgo-stats.com/archetypes/Modern/RU5

[Kaitscralt]

why would zem, someone who considers himself a revolutionary deckbuilder, consider something out of the box and different when he can just tweak 2 cards on someone elses blue moon list and call it his own creation?

[Kaitscralt]

you're not taking owenrship of asking without thinking

[DroppinSuga]

You need to take ownership of your miserable existence.

[Lightning_Dolt]

you're not taking owenrship of asking without thinking

I know I might come across that way, but it's because I admit that I know less than certain people on this forum. I'm reaching out to those with more knowledge and experience than me. It's typically to people that I respect. If you guys want me to be arrogant and just insist that I'm right all the time, I can do that too.

[Kaitscralt]

i was engaging in the art of jokery

[Lightning_Dolt]

The whole point of this forum is to engage and communicate and trade ideas. It's helped me to grow from the scrubbiest of scrubs into a competent player. But that doesn't happen without discussion. Half of discussion is questions. I respect you very much too Kait.

[rcwraspy]

a bit late to the discussion, but my LGS's FNM-level constructed events are all 4 rounds regardless of attendance and pay out down to 2-1-1 as the worst record that gets money back. It's store credit. Buy-in is $5, and the afore-mentioned 2-1-1 gets $6. The catch is that there are a lot of very strong players at that LGS. The guys who top 8 all the local PTQs, GPTs, $5ks, and Opens attend that LGS. But most people will draw round 4 if it puts both players "in the money."

[hamfactorial]

You need to take ownership of your miserable existence.

I had ownership, but I got ripped in a trade on Sally.

#spurned

[Lightning_Dolt]

Uh oh, Ham turned on the #spurned signal. SheSpurnedMe will be here anytime now.

[Khaospawn]

I am the terror that spurns in the night!

[hamfactorial]

Uh oh, Ham turned on the #spurned signal. SheSpurnedMe will be here anytime now.

Hold onto your butts!

[hamfactorial]

Uh oh, Ham turned on the #spurned signal. SheSpurnedMe will be here anytime now.

I imagine the spurned signal is just an outline of a flaccid penis against a cloudy sky

[Lightning_Dolt]

SPURN TO ME!

[hamfactorial]

[Kaitscralt]

the spurn signal is a beacon in the sky in the shape of a guy reading his wifes emails

[Khaospawn]

You wanna know how I got these spurns?

[DroppinSuga]

I'm a page in your dossier, but you're just a line in a forum post

[zemanjaski]

why would zem, someone who considers himself a revolutionary deckbuilder, consider something out of the box and different when he can just tweak 2 cards on someone elses blue moon list and call it his own creation?

Try harder madding

[DroppinSuga]

#SheSpurnedMadding

[zemanjaski]

You need to take some ownership of asking without thinking.

I did think. My thought process was, good decks in modern often come from mashing together two existing strategies (kiki control and tarmo twin are two that come to me off the top of my head). Your colours support it and your spell count is very high.

Something like this is what I had in mind.

[deck]Creatures (14)
4 Snapcaster Mage
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Young Pyromancer
2 Vendilion Clique

Enchantments (3)
3 Blood Moon

Spells (18)
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Serum Visions
3 Spell Snare
3 Mana Leak
3 Remand
3
Electrolyze
2 Cryptic Command

Lands (23)
1 Desolate Lighthouse
8 Island
4 Misty Rainforest
1 Mountain
4 Scalding Tarn
3 Steam Vents
2 Sulfur Falls[/deck]

Now you can feel free to call that decklist terrible, but I think it's worth at least thinking about possibilities, rather than just immediately discarding them. Either way, The deck list you proposed (to me) is missing something, and that's what I was trying to point out. If you don't like the suggestion of Delver / YP$, what about adding Splinter Twin, Deceiver Exarch, Kiki or Pestermite? You deck basically seems like this deck without the combo: http://www.mtgo-stats.com/archetypes/Modern/RU5

The issues are:

- asking about including cards without explaining why they compliment the strategy or what they would replace isn't helpful.
- blue moon is an established archetype so you're going to need to expand on what
it's missing
- adding cards that are valueless without another piece just makes your deck way more inconsistent; if you want to play twin then play twin properly
- Kiki control is not a very good deck; it's just ok and has already fallen out of favour. it's worse than UWR which is only tier 2. Of course, tiers aren't than meaningful in modern, but the idea that mashing two decks together will make a good deck isn't something that always happens; it's something that's happened once.

The first point is the most annoying; don't be like the bads that post in TCG articles.

[Second Harkius]

madding insults anything that threatens him which is why he insults everything

[Kaitscralt]

all spurned me

[Kaitscralt]

have you ever wondered what the voice of the devil sounds like? did you ever expect it would sound like every other nerd in the whole world?

please visit my limited videos thread if you like draft and sealed, provide feedback and let me know if you'd like to see more videos on the DTR front page

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=2777&p=241221#p241221

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDsLWFKiAOM

[zemanjaski]

I can vouch Mike sounds like an Angel.

[DroppinSuga]

have you ever wondered what the voice of the devil sounds like? did you ever expect it would sound like every other nerd in the whole world?

please visit my limited videos thread if you like draft and sealed, provide feedback and let me know if you'd like to see more videos on the DTR front page

viewtopic.php?f=47&t=2777&p=241221#p241221

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDsLWFKiAOM

I masturbated to your voice.

[Second Harkius]

better watch the video before he deletes it forever which he will.

[Kaitscralt]

better watch the video before he deletes it forever which he will.

this is not wrong

[Kaitscralt]

please let me know if the video is not starting at the beginning for you, i've been experiencing some weirdness with youtube