Gone Postal Mafia - Game Over - Scum Win

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Thu May 29, 2014 9:54 pm

Wraith, if you've stated that you role blocked me, and don't believe I'm town (yet you admit I'm was the counterwagon to scum day 1), why aren't you voting me and not Jones?

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Thu May 29, 2014 9:56 pm

I can only imagine jones reaction to hams ability after reading it

Jack · Postby **Jack** » Thu May 29, 2014 9:59 pm

Vote MoJo
My scum list is small enough now, and he's still on it.

RedNihilist · Postby **RedNihilist** » Thu May 29, 2014 10:26 pm

Wraith, if you've stated that you role blocked me, and don't believe I'm town (yet you admit I'm was the counterwagon to scum day 1), why aren't you voting me and not Jones?

Do you have any ability that could give us any info on Wraith's roleblocking?
[y/n], I don't want a claim for now.

Postby **Stardust** » Thu May 29, 2014 10:57 pm

Official Votecount!

Jack (1): RedNihilist
hamfactorial (1): Mogadishu Jones
rezombad (1): InflatablePie
Mogadishu Jones (3): Wraith223, hamfactorial, Jack

Not voting: rezombad, Cursed_Pride, Lord_Mcdonalds, Dechs Kaison

With 10 alive, it is 6 to lynch.

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Thu May 29, 2014 11:31 pm

Wraith, if you've stated that you role blocked me, and don't believe I'm town (yet you admit I'm was the counterwagon to scum day 1), why aren't you voting me and not Jones?
Do you have any ability that could give us any info on Wraith's roleblocking?
[y/n], I don't want a claim for now.

Could you rephrase that, not really sure what your getting at.

Cursed_Pride · Postby **Cursed_Pride** » Fri May 30, 2014 5:42 am

Again, catching up on the weekend.

-I could get behind a Mogadishu Jones lynch.

-If anyone has a protective role of any sort (doctor/bodyguard/bulletproof), they should claim.

I'm not sure how I feel about Jack's and Wraith's role being in the same game, with a innocent child.

RedNihilist · Postby **RedNihilist** » Fri May 30, 2014 6:51 am

Wraith, if you've stated that you role blocked me, and don't believe I'm town (yet you admit I'm was the counterwagon to scum day 1), why aren't you voting me and not Jones?
Do you have any ability that could give us any info on Wraith's roleblocking?
[y/n], I don't want a claim for now.
Could you rephrase that, not really sure what your getting at.

Do you... happen...
to have an ability that, used properly, could interact with Wraith's and give us some kind of info?
He has declared he blocked you yesterDay, can you, like, confirm it or deny it or just tell the world you don't know?

I just want to know that, thanks

Postby **Stardust** » Fri May 30, 2014 2:42 pm

rezombad and Mogadishu Jones have been prodded.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri May 30, 2014 5:05 pm

V/LA until Monday.

I'm going on a short vacation trip to San Luis Obispo with my lady. I'll have my phone to check on the thread and send actions, but no digging through the thread or casing people. I think you all know where I stand currently

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Fri May 30, 2014 5:15 pm

Wraith, if you've stated that you role blocked me, and don't believe I'm town (yet you admit I'm was the counterwagon to scum day 1), why aren't you voting me and not Jones?
Do you have any ability that could give us any info on Wraith's
roleblocking?
[y/n], I don't want a claim for now.
Could you rephrase that, not really sure what your getting at.
Do you... happen... to have an ability that, used properly, could interact with Wraith's and give us some kind of info?
He has declared he blocked you yesterDay, can you, like, confirm it or deny it or just tell the world you don't know?

I just want to know that, thanks

No.....idea........

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Fri May 30, 2014 10:17 pm

I really don't get why MoJo is a good lynch here.

What's the scum motivation for CM to say "I'm not getting lynched with this role" and for MJ to come in, hammer, and use his action in-thread.

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Fri May 30, 2014 10:21 pm

I seriously feel like Occam's Razor states we lynch the person who the nightkilled target suspected, because I doubt that play makes sense. Like, I don't think imopen was some sort of PR hunt and there were way townier players on the wagon.

If we lynch Rez and he flips town, ham should bomb LMD so we can get a better idea of the rcw/LMD/nonvoters D1.

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Fri May 30, 2014 10:22 pm

*doubt that play (of killing imopen) makes sense otherwise

Wraith223 · Postby **Wraith223** » Fri May 30, 2014 10:27 pm

@those who requested info. I have roleblocker ability. I am Herman post, mail soter. The dude from Garfield in the comic strip.

Yes, I targeted LMD first night. Do I still think he is scum? Yes, but he is more null as his post count is relatively low. He also has few scum tells than MoJo. I prefer to hunt scum by strongest scum read/tells. LMD could be scum, and I will vote him if his wagon grows to any significant levels.
My scum to null list so far is strong scum read MoJo, medium strength LMD, light level Jack, and a bunch of null (red, Rez, and DK).

MoJo needs to respond to the wagon and any questions soon as I want to hear from him before a lynch occurs.

@inflateablepie, the responses given to ham is what pinged my radar. The claim of unknowingly hammering and the vindictive response is troubling to me. Other that that, I would just considered his vote a Rvs opening vote that was of high importance (he just
replaced CM, thus his first vote could be given a dismissal. The post vote responses seemed off and similar of a child that was caught with his or her hand in the cookie jar.

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Fri May 30, 2014 11:29 pm

Wraith it still doesn't make sense to roleblock me if you have no intention of trying to lynch me , as me flipping town makes you look really bad

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Fri May 30, 2014 11:31 pm

Also what makes you think I have a power role?

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Fri May 30, 2014 11:59 pm

see LMD just claimed VT

we lynch rez, bomb the counterwagon to scum to eliminate that WIFOM. We could also bomb someone else by PoE but that's a worse play.

so we're not lynching/bombing:
me because I'm town
CP because I'm town
Jack because he's most likely town (also kinda confirmable I guess?)
Red because he's most likely town
MJones (srsly) because he's most likely town
ham because he's claimed a vig role, we test it tonight and make sure we leash it (in case of extra scum kill or SK, but a one-shot vig in a 12p 9:3 setup seems pretty town - 7:3 and 5:3 are the next ratios for D1/D2 mislynches, leading to an NL D3 OR a one shot kill of sorts)

leaving: LMD, Rez, Dechs, Wraith

Wraith doesn't get bombed because he randomly claimed Roleblocker
Rez gets lynched because someone died who suspected him when no one was listening to said deadplayer, and there was no other reason for his death[/
b]
LMD or Dechs gets bombed, I have more of a townread on Dechs and bombing LMD eliminates the WIFOM of 'counterwagon to scum' which is literally my only argument for not wanting LMD dead.

and since LMD's Vanilla it's better to bomb him than Dechs for the moment, although depending on the lynch/NKs I think there should be a massclaim tomorrow especially if rezzy is scum which he is.

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Fri May 30, 2014 11:59 pm

we're also not lynching CP because he is town

mostly because I'm town tho

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Sat May 31, 2014 12:04 am

like I have never been so confident that we can win this game and I'm going to be mad if we throw it all away and waste a lynch on a probably town PR

I have been the closest to confirmed as town (other than CP duh) and I led a lynch on scum D1 and I am incredibly confident that if the town follows my line of thinking that we can have a near-perfect town win.

the only reason you shouldn't be listening to me right now is if you think I'm scum

whoever does think I'm scum should speak up

also if I'm wrong I'll sheep whatever dumbfuck wagon you guys want to do tomorrow, just gimme one more chance to hit scum

Jack · Postby **Jack** » Sat May 31, 2014 4:22 am

Alright, I'm sold.
unvote
Vote Rez

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sat May 31, 2014 4:50 am

Seems fine to me, the suspicion that io2 had of rez before he died was interesting during my re-read last week.

Unvote
Vote rez

Dechs Kaison · Postby **Dechs Kaison** » Sat May 31, 2014 5:52 am

I love you Pie. I'm totally sold.

I'm also ok with you narrowing down the bomb to LMD or myself. Let's let Ham make the final decision there.

vote Rez

Cursed_Pride · Postby **Cursed_Pride** » Sat May 31, 2014 7:21 am

-Please don't end the day without me making a couple of in-depth posts, which should come tomorrow.

I'm uncomfortable with the speed of the rez wagon, and I want to talk to Pie about stuff (as I view it, he and I have been kind of leading the town, yet we haven't really talked directly to each other).

RedNihilist · Postby **RedNihilist** » Sat May 31, 2014 7:50 am

Unvoting and waiting

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Sat May 31, 2014 9:58 am

it's fine, he's at L-2. 'sup CP? anything in particular you wanna chat about?

I think your read on MJ is wrong and I don't get what associative tells rcw had w/ Rez that 'bumped him up'.

if scum wanted a low info kill, they could have killed... I dunno, Lord_M or Dechs or someone. Not imopen who highly suspected Rez d1.

rezombad · Postby **rezombad** » Sat May 31, 2014 10:14 am

Filler post. Catching up tomorrow, busy with things and Whatnots.

Mcdonalds · Postby **Mcdonalds** » Sat May 31, 2014 2:03 pm

@pie, I'm not vanilla town , I can send an extra letter at night

So I may as well be

Plan seems solid though vote rez

Wraith223 · Postby **Wraith223** » Sat May 31, 2014 4:52 pm

I believe that puts my vote at hammer if I do vote? I am unsure Rez is scum as he has posted material I found to be town mindset? Although, that was only for the Red claim which was rather obviously visible in the Mod example.

My concern currently is his lack of posting or scum hunting. It just seems he is floundering right now under Inflateablepie's read. The current response of being busy seems half assed and reflective of Rcw. Then again Inflateablepie is priming a good argument against Rez that has me intrigued.

Red unvoting is weird. Why abandon or hover on Inflateablepie when earlier he followed him like a puppy? Seems off and defensive to me or he unsure Inflateablepie is town.

On the matter of why scum NK imopen2, I am really unsure what think about it. I could see Inflateablepie's read that Rez killed imopen2 for earlier calls on his poor wagon creation on ham. It would also fit the aggressive nature
of Rez this game to direct NK Imopen2. That is where I currently stand on Rez.

unvote. VOTE Rez

Inflateablepie should be given a chance on his read as Rez has not properly defended himself when town needed it most.

Wraith223 · Postby **Wraith223** » Sat May 31, 2014 4:55 pm

Any suggestions who I should roleblock tonight? My best choices feel like LMD or MoJo.

Wraith223 · Postby **Wraith223** » Sat May 31, 2014 4:56 pm

Edit....and Red for not following Inflateablepie when he had clearly done so thus far.

Cursed_Pride · Postby **Cursed_Pride** » Sat May 31, 2014 5:13 pm

I say don't end the day.. and then two people immediately show up and end the day? -Something is in there, alright.

Jack, please target me tonight. -Do not WIFOM this up.

Wraith223 · Postby **Wraith223** » Sat May 31, 2014 5:31 pm

I say don't end the day.. and then two people immediately show up and end the day? -Something is in there, alright.

Jack, please target me tonight. -Do not WIFOM this up.

I won't roleblocke Jack then so he can protect you.

Jack, please protect C_P.

So any ideas who I should roleblocke then? Mojo, LMd, or Red?

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Sat May 31, 2014 6:16 pm

If Rez flips scum, roleblock Dechs or LMD. Red is town and if ham is bombing LMD there's not a whole ton of reason to block him, but it depends.

If I was wrong, roleblock... probably not MoJo since a) he's town but b) if I'm wrong there too, his ability looks like it goes through during Day.

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Sat May 31, 2014 6:18 pm

although we should wait til Night to actually pick. since if I was wrong, there's 2 scum and you probably won't hit the killer.

InflatablePie · Postby **InflatablePie** » Sat May 31, 2014 6:19 pm

also also

it actually isn't that bad if I'm wrong, because we can still pretty much do the same plan since the good targets for bombs/blocks tonight help get some WIFOM/info out of the way.

so woo.

Jack · Postby **Jack** » Sat May 31, 2014 6:30 pm

Hmm...I might use it on Ham still, since his plan looks pretty good.

Jack · Postby **Jack** » Sat May 31, 2014 6:30 pm

Is rez a dead man right now?

RedNihilist · Postby **RedNihilist** » Sat May 31, 2014 6:50 pm

Red unvoting is weird. Why abandon or hover on Inflateablepie when earlier he followed him like a puppy? Seems off and defensive to me or he unsure Inflateablepie is town.

Edit....and Red for not following Inflateablepie when he had clearly done so thus far.

1) My vote was on Jack anyway, so why do you even care?
2) C_P, one who happen to be confirmed town, asked to slow down a bit - you're the one who's not acting properly here.
3) WHy should thinking that Pie might be wrong here "off and defensive"?

If rez flips town you're
the next in line here.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Sat May 31, 2014 6:55 pm

Wraith, that hammer (if it was indeed a hammer, Stardust hasn't confirmed it) was premature. It's unlikely that the rez wagon was going to just fall apart on its own, and C_P asked for more time. Plus we haven't heard anything at all from rez that could help tomorrow.

Why?

At the end of day 1 you said -

Another newb question: He's already hung, does it make sense for me to move my vote now that my meeting's over?
SUPERHAMMER GO! That was scummy as shit.

And then did it yourself.

:ape:

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