--- Dies To Removal --- MTGO Clan

[BlakLanner]

On the normal client, the tooltip will say which one is summoning sick. Some people also set it not to stack lands. On the beta client, I think the top one is the newest one you played.

[hamfactorial]

I should play more with the beta client if it has improved the land situation.

I've activated the wrong Mutavault or used Koth's +1 on the Mountain I played this turn too many times, despite setting my land to not stack. I tried to find a pattern, but MTGO will occasionally put the land I've just played on the left instead of the right. I can't figure it out.

[Rhyno]

I should play more with the beta client if it has improved the land situation.

I've activated the wrong Mutavault or used Koth's +1 on the Mountain I played this turn too many times, despite setting my land to not stack. I tried to find a pattern, but MTGO will occasionally put the land I've just played on the left instead of the right. I can't figure it out.

I just mouse over it now because "Summoning Sick" is listed on the pop-up. The only time I've screwed it up is when my T2 play was a second Mutavault. Blegh.

[imopen2]

Ham: what do you think of that twin list?

My proposed changes:
Md:
-1 tech edge
-1 electrolyze
-1 probe
-1 snow covered island
+ 1 misty rainforest
+1 stomping ground
+1 Kiki
+1 vapor snag

Sb:
-1 vapor snag
-1 pestermite
-1 cryptic
-1 spell snare
+1 combust
+1 flame slash
+2 ancient grudge

[hamfactorial]

It looks like a fairly standard UR Twin list, I've played against it many times and it's good. I don't have trouble with it, but my brew is pretty rogue and you won't see it in dailies.

I've thought for a while that Twin should play the full 4 Deceiver Exarch for bolt/spellskite resistance. It makes me happy that they don't.

Your SB changes seem fine, especially if you're trying to pick up extra points against Affinity.

Your MD shifts are a bit odd. The Vapor Snag addition suggests that you're favoring a tempo approach, but the extra land and Kiki suggest that you're playing for the long game.

Which are you looking to do? If the Kiki is just another shot at the combo, play a 4th Exarch instead. It will be difficult to consistently hit 5 land with [mana]RRR[/mana] available without extra card draw/filtering, which you're cutting back on (-1 Probe, -1 Electrolyze).

[imopen2]

Yea, I wasn't actually cutting a land, I was cutting 2 and adding 2, but I see your point. I was mainly adding the Kiki since it's in like every list I've seen place and it seems like a good way to diversify but maybe it's not what this version wants to do...

The vapor snag is mostly to mise extra wins in the mirror, break up pod combos, and clear some room in the side for the full transformation into either blue moon combo or tempo. Maybe the probe should stay in for the Kiki? Or do you think running a 4th exarch is better?

[hamfactorial]

I'm playing Boros, so I'm wary any time I see 3 untapped U/R sources during my 3rd turn. I'm confident when I have a Path to Exile, but I often have to ship the turn without playing anything if I just have a Lightning Bolt. I'm never scared of Kiki-Jiki, since he's easy to kill and expensive, and has no synergy with VClique.

In the mirror, I think that Electrolyze is a better mise, since you can clear out any combination of VClique, Snapcaster, Pestermite or Grim Lavamancer and draw a card in the process. Batterskull is the ultimate mirror breaker in SB games.

I've always liked Dead // Gone in red decks with tempo elements. It's certainly better against small aggro.

Dead, Snapcaster, Dead is a good line in the mirror assuming they have an Exarch you want gone.

[Kaitscralt]

So how quick is that format?

pretty quick, the auras end games fast

But the untap cards make some games long and grindy

[Pedros]

Managed to get last 1 QP tonight. But that was really hard, everyone knew how to play against burn and had lots of cards in sb. Sitting on 35 QPs now.

Still 3 more mocs to play ...

[LP, of the Fires]

If you play twin, play tempo twin. Along with birthing Pod, best deck in the format and despite how complictated it can be to play, Tarmogoyf forgives all misplays.

[Jonnymagic]

Haven't been able to play much on MTGO due to prerelease and all the RL stuff happening, but I snuck a cube in tonight -- and I'm in with HornofAmmon. He lost, haha. I'm playing a pile of green with rafellos and genesis wave. I will not win this tournament (most likely) but neither will horn, lol.

[magicdownunder]

MOCS6 start after DT but we still have an ETA on the format and mocs card, I can't help but feel slightly concerned.

I'm aware that they already have 4 mocs stuck in the backlog - but they should at least offer a crappy 15 QP CUBE event with a card.

[Pedros]

I think some have to point out the fact that waiting for mocs isnt favorable when you can play qualifier or cube to get additional promo cards... Also the fact that some people are making secondary accounts is also quite bad for them imo.

[hamfactorial]

Got to 14 rupees but I couldn't get into an 8-man this morning before downtime.

[imopen2]

Damn that sucks....

[imopen2]

I actually didn't play magic last night (first night in a couple weeks) since I got to 15 and didn't see the point in getting any more. I almost bought the twin deck so I could do some testing with it before the GP but decided to just watch the top 8 feature matches of Anssi Alkio at PT BNG instead. His match against blue moon was insane.

[hamfactorial]

It's OK, I made the executive decision to spend time with my lady last night instead of staying up late trying to grind.

I think I'm just shy of the activity level required to consistently hit 15 QPs in a month, so I'm going to just play in DEs for better EV and forget about trying to grind promos.

[magicdownunder]

Looks like you can still earn QP for MOCS6 even though the card and format isn't up, so we MAY get an update mid-season for an event/card or they may just screw us over and claim the QPs are just for the POTYR... (sigh.... this season is going to suck for the carrot on the stick players)

[Pedros]

Wasnt there already some info about promo? It is some kind of legacy dual, probably Bayou?

[LP, of the Fires]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT DIDN'T KNOW FREE TICKET EVENTS WHERE SHADOMOOR AND MODERN MASTERS!

I will be having pancakes for breakfast on saturday and don't plan on changing out of my pajamas.

[magicdownunder]

Wasnt there already some info about promo? It is some kind of legacy dual, probably Bayou?

link please, even on the WOTC website and forum we don't have any information.

Heck we don't even know of the shadomoor is phantom or not yet

[Pedros]

I didnt managed to queue for it as mtgo froze when I wanted ...

[Pedros]

To those who didn sign in - all 4 free events were filled in 10 minutes.

[imopen2]

Damn. I didn't even think about it being limited amounts...

[imopen2]

I even had my computer at work with me..oh well

[LP, of the Fires]

...FUCK

[montu]

I've got all 4 events open. The block events have a slot open up every once in a while, but even when you click immediately, someone else gets it. Hasn't moved in the last 20 minutes though.

I haven't seen anything open up in the phantom events.

[montu]

Wasnt there already some info about promo? It is some kind of legacy dual, probably Bayou?

link please, even on the WOTC website and forum we don't have any information.

Heck we don't even know of the shadomoor is phantom or not yet

I'm sure everyone knows by now, but SHM isn't phantom. And the promo is Bayou.

[montu]

I'm not sure if people are using bots to try to join. Some guy named RJing just got in both phantom events within 2 seconds of each other.

[montu]

I'm not sure if people are using bots to try to join. Some guy named RJing just got in both phantom events within 2 seconds of each other.

He's now in all 4 events.

[Rhyno]

Client crashed when the events went up. Managed to get in the Shadowmoor events. I can't wait to get dropped from the events on Saturday Morning

[imopen2]

2-0 in my first sealed daily of the new season.

I sold about 150 tix of stuff so I could go buy the rest of twin (12 cards)...turns out that costs like 400 tix so I said fuck that.

It's ok to just watch videos of other people play your deck in prep for a GP..right?

[imopen2]

4-0.

good start I would say

[magicdownunder]

To those who didn sign in - all 4 free events were filled in 10 minutes.

EDIT: I got my 2x for the day (burn still works so I'm happy) just need 33 more then I'm set

[Kaitscralt]

Zem my new hours are 8:30 - 4:30 est, I'm too lazy to PM you so find this post

[Jonnymagic]

So I forgot that M14 drafts are the easiest thing ever, and eased my way into S6 with an 8-4 win. Blue green ramp to windreader sphinx ftw.

[magicdownunder]

So I forgot that M14 drafts are the easiest thing ever, and eased my way into S6 with an 8-4 win. Blue green ramp to windreader sphinx ftw.

Nice

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For those who were like me and used the usual link for information about MTGO news here is the special update which they placed in a odd position: Link

MOCS 6 card:
: value (non-promo) $36 (promo price in the first week should be in $20+ while it slowly rises)

Participation card:
: looks sweet (I kinda prefer the original) though its worth nothing, that said its just an easy free card for playing the game we love.

Store usage card:
: look ok.... (I def. prefer the original) worth nothing, this is a card those of you who are like me (going inf.) will never get but luckily its a horrible card so I don't care.

[Longtoe]

already up to 3 qp for the new season, I hope to collect enough legacy crap to actually play it.

[imopen2]

Hey kait, would you have gone with the UW or the UB?

[LP, of the Fires]

Black so hard it's not even funny. Unless I'm missing something, there's nothing compelling about the white while black has literally everything you want; removal, pseudo bombs, CA.

Shipwreck singer, gray merchant, whip, bile blight, asphyxiate, thoughtseize, siren of silent song? Sounds like the nut black pool to me.