[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:54 pm

I love how people are like "OMG I'm so glad my opponent can't turn City Of Brass against me this card is so good!"

...seriously, does that happen in Real Magic? I feel like this isn't going to change anything. Decks that wanted City will play this instead, decks that didn't want City aren't going to change.

City of Brass getting tapped by opponents in upkeep has been a historical drawback. Icy Manipulator in the old days and Rishadan Port in the new days. Plus the much more frequent tap shenanigans that might happen in any given block or standard.

If this were City of Brass and Tamiyo were in M15, it would be annoying. Not hugely relevant, but annoying.

Taking out the drawback is really cool.

Kaitscralt · Postby **Kaitscralt** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:56 pm

as to your other point, "the decks that want to play this will play this."

okay? and that shouldn't excite people why?

redthirst · Postby **redthirst** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:11 pm

New City makes the Aggro shells that were possible with the m10 lands viable again. With 8 ETB untapped lands that can produce your main and off color you can do a lot more than with only 4 - Dos Rakis, here I come.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 2:49 pm

City of Brass has some upside though. You can respond to the damage trigger with a spell, so a Lightning Bolt can still kill your opponent when you're at 1.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:42 pm

I heard City of Brass was good, so lets print a version that's strictly better

Didn't Wizards say they were going to stray away from multicolor after RtR? I guess they lied

how is it strictly better? Seems like functional reprint to me.

Helios · Postby **Helios** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:49 pm

as to your other point, "the decks that want to play this will play this."

okay? and that shouldn't excite people why?

...I was making fun of the Sally thread which is basically heralding this card as the Greatest Thing Ever because Every Deck will play 4?

Postby **Stardust** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:50 pm

how is it strictly better? Seems like functional reprint to me.

It's strictly better because someone casting Twiddle on this version won't hurt you. So, yeah, it's basically a functional reprint, but technically strictly better because it doesn't have that extremely insignificant downside.

Lightning_Dolt · Postby **Lightning_Dolt** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:01 pm

ok then.

Postby **Stardust** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:03 pm

Indeed.

Platypus · Postby **Platypus** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:22 pm

Well...this new version causes life loss and City of Brass causes damage. Damage is more easily prevented, so there's that difference as well. Not that it matters for practical purposes.

Postby **Stardust** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:22 pm

[card]Urza's Armor[/card] combo!! These cards are clearly not comparable in the slightest.

DocLawless · Postby **DocLawless** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:34 pm

Dat synergy.

Alex · Postby **Alex** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:01 pm

how is it strictly better? Seems like functional reprint to me.
It's strictly better because someone casting Twiddle on this version won't hurt you. So, yeah, it's basically a functional reprint, but technically strictly better because it doesn't have that extremely insignificant downside.

Technically City of Brass is "strictly" better in the sense that you can still activate it while under the effect of [card]Angel's Grace[/card] or Phyrexian Unlife. Paying life is part of the activation cost. If you cannot pay the cost, the ability cannot go on the stack. Not the case with City of Brass.

I hate the terms "strictly better/worse" since Magic is such a huge game that it is pretty much universally false given how many variables there could be.

Postby **Stardust** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:07 pm

In this case, it was wrongly applied, but it's not a terrible thing to say about Shock vs. Lightning Bolt (despite not being technically true thanks to Mindslaver).

lorddax · Postby **lorddax** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:17 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/td1z95qda64gl ... .32.35.png

MMMMM It just feels soooooo gooood! Theres an icon in the bottom left of the screen that shows why Im gushing.

Khaospawn · Postby **Khaospawn** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:57 pm

I know the real reason why you're gushing.

*unzips*

lorddax · Postby **lorddax** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:08 pm

Its true. Our video chat is open in another app. . .

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:25 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/s/td1z95qda64gl ... .32.35.png

MMMMM It just feels soooooo gooood! Theres an icon in the bottom left of the screen that shows why Im gushing.

Is that a Hearthstone phone/tablet app?

lorddax · Postby **lorddax** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:22 pm

YERP!!! POOP AND PLAY!!

Its the feature that really sells your game. NA launch is posted as "Soon" but its launched in other countries, so you can get it if you kerjigger your iPad.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:31 pm

That's excellent

if HS is due for release on Android I'll pick up a tablet for increased yolos.

DocLawless · Postby **DocLawless** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:57 pm

Oh, Tappedout.net... What's it like to live in Christmasland? Ajani, Mentor of Heroes +1 to put 3 counters on Sage of Hours, double them by declaring attack with Kalonian Hydra, then activate Sage for an extra turn. Lather, rinse, repeat to infinity. That's even better than the time they said Standard was broken because of Duskmantle Guildmage, double activation on the first ability, then Jace, Memory Adept +0 to mill ten, deal 20.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:29 pm

If they released Hearthstone for Android so I could play it on my Transformer I may just be motivated enough to play it.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:30 pm

Also, I'll be streaming RG aggro tonight.

hamfactorial · Postby **hamfactorial** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:42 pm

Yeah! I'll tune in. I'll be streaming my totes amaze Kiki aggro deck tomorrow morning.

Self Medicated · Postby **Self Medicated** » Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:42 pm

If they released Hearthstone for Android so I could play it on my Transformer I may just be motivated enough to play it.

They are supposed to release a version for Android soon.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:30 am

I'm running a little behind but I should be starting by 10pm cst.

BlakLanner · Postby **BlakLanner** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 3:53 am

God that Cardboard Crack from Wednesday is so accurate for me today. 3-1 tonight with an untested UWr deck. Cast my first Rev and DSphere in sanctioned play today. It felt so awkward. At least I got to confuse most of my opponents when they saw me lay a UW Temple on T1 when they kept anti-burn hands.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:55 am

Streaming some THS sealed!

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:19 am

I haven't stayed up this late in a long time.

Valdarith · Postby **Valdarith** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:52 am

I won a Phantom Sealed event. Yay! Basically swapped between RW and RU decks depending on what I was playing against. I'm starting to like Sealed more and more.

Midnight_v · Postby **Midnight_v** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:46 am

I am in sticker shock at cost of paper magic. MFW type shock. My total expenditures for going to the SCG open on a whim, taught me that doing that shit on a whim is a bad idea. For the amount I was going to spend I could have almost bought that playstation 4.
Mutavaults= 30 - 45 dollars
Shock lands? 10 each
scry lands? 6 each
I make pretty decent money, but the thought that the cost of mutavaults being more than most of the other cards in the deck. . . is obnoxious. Sorry quick rant.

Regular scheduled programming in 3...2...1.
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TBuzzsaw · Postby **TBuzzsaw** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:47 am

So a control player was talking crap about burn decks how it requires no thought to win against control earlier in the week. The red player that won the event bet with him to trade decks and see how well he would do playing burn at FNM tonight.

He went 2-4, losing all his 3 matches against control. The burn player playing his control deck went 5-0-1.

Edit: GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY

Midnight_v · Postby **Midnight_v** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:16 am

So a control player was talking crap about burn decks how it requires no thought to win against control earlier in the week. The red player that won the event bet with him to trade decks and see how well he would do playing burn at FNM tonight.

He went 2-4, losing all his 3 matches against control. The burn player playing his control deck went 5-0-1.

Edit: GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY

GOTCHA!

But yeah So i go to buying cards and the guy selling says
Card guy:"I'm on junk, myself"
Me: Junk huh? Why not just B/w?
Card guy: "I like the power of some of the green cards'
Me:: "Huh. I can see that I guess. *shrug* I'm volleying on burn, and aggro"
CG: "Ah I don't like burn because its, "No offense"
pretty mindless"
M_V: "Yeah its pretty easy managing all those overly powerful cards they're running"

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:39 pm

I haven't been playing standard due to the price of Mutavault. I have either Esper or UW control made but I can't afford the mutavaults to make it win.

LP, of the Fires · Postby **LP, of the Fires** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:22 pm

You only need 2, if any mutavaults. It's reasonable to play esper with zero and all the scrylands instead.

DroppinSuga · Postby **DroppinSuga** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:39 pm

i thought about running esper without the mutas. i still may, actually.

NerdBoyWonder · Postby **NerdBoyWonder** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:31 pm

So Arthreos was spoiled and now I may have to be off burn for a W/B aristocrat xanthrid human package hmmm

rcwraspy · Postby **rcwraspy** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:41 pm

So Arthreos was spoiled and now I may have to be off burn for a W/B aristocrat xanthrid human package hmmm

lol was thinking the same thing.

Wraith223 · Postby **Wraith223** » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:43 pm

Would Athreos, God of Passage finally make vexing devil good?

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