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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:21 am

[deck]Modern Nykthos Genesis Wave[/deck]
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4 Arbor Elf
1 Craterhoof Behemoth
4 Burning Tree Emissary
4 Eternal Witness
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Primeval Titan
1 Scavenging Ooze
2 Wistful Selkie

Planeswalkers
4 Garruk Wildspeaker

Other
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2 Fertile Ground
1 Primal Command
4 Utopia Sprawl

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1 Kessig Wolf Run
2 Misty Rainforest
2 Stomping Ground
4 Verdant Catacombs

8 Forest
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:21 am

I do not miss Wolf Run Ramp.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:22 am

Nor do I, fuck that deck and fuck Valakut too.

Wait, fuck Primeval Titan.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:24 am

If you're a scrub who hasn't changed the posts per page.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:25 am

Nor do I, fuck that deck and fuck Valakut too.

Wait, fuck Primeval Titan.
Did you like RUG Control with Jace and Inferno Titan?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:36 am

Naw
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:37 am

The so-called best deck to never win a tournament? I was never into it. It stole some games from me though, no doubt about that. I did play Jace throughout his entire Standard run.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:40 am

I really liked Boros Landfall until they printed Batterskull. Then I just played Cawblade like everyone else.
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Postby TubeHunter » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:44 am

I wish I could've been around to play 5 color control.


Otherwise I've only played 3 decks competitively: pyrowhite (sort of), sledgehammer red, and B/r zombies from scars/innistrad
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Postby Jack » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:53 am

I wish I had a chance to play U/W Delver and a few of red myriad of non-combo Pod decks in standard.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:15 am

Favorite decks in the last couple years was Grixis control in delver standard. You where a dog to PrimeTime decks, but Delver was a buy and you got to play with desperate ravings which is just the sweetest. The Aristocrats was also the coolest thing ever and let you play a bunch of different games. I really enjoy decks that have lots of different gameplans.

I never got into RG agro mostly because I thought the deck was terrible(really I just hated bird>sword) but I loved that it played borderland ranger. In Zendblock, I liked Vamps but quickly moved onto mono-red and caw-blade until batterskull came out when I just stopped playing constructed till rotation(was in the service at the time so it's not like grindy decks I didn't like was conducive to playing on the PT).
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:16 am

All of OG rav block decks where good, at least when gifts wasn't in the format anymore.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:20 am

Though I never played it in tourney, Jund last season was a great deck. Yeah, thragtusk blah blah blah, but it was actually very skill rewarding.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:21 am

Favorite decks in the last couple years was Grixis control in delver standard. You where a dog to PrimeTime decks, but Delver was a buy and you got to play with desperate ravings which is just the sweetest. The Aristocrats was also the coolest thing ever and let you play a bunch of different games. I really enjoy decks that have lots of different gameplans.

I never got into RG agro mostly because I thought the deck was terrible(really I just hated bird>sword) but I loved that it played borderland ranger. In Zendblock, I liked Vamps but quickly moved onto mono-red and caw-blade until batterskull came out when I just stopped playing constructed till rotation(was in the service at the time so it's not like grindy decks I didn't like was conducive to playing on the PT).
lol, it was arguably the best deck for a not-small window, why is bird into sword bad? feast and famine trigger on turn 3 is how you won games.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:22 am

UW was my first love.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:28 am

Remember how Shrine of Burning Rage wasn't the best card in the format? That's how skewed that format was hahaha.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:31 am

Racing a Shrine with Control will go down as some of the most fun games I've played.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:31 am

Favorite decks in the last couple years was Grixis control in delver standard. You where a dog to PrimeTime decks, but Delver was a buy and you got to play with desperate ravings which is just the sweetest. The Aristocrats was also the coolest thing ever and let you play a bunch of different games. I really enjoy decks that have lots of different gameplans.

I never got into RG agro mostly because I thought the deck was terrible(really I just hated bird>sword) but I loved that it played borderland ranger. In Zendblock, I liked Vamps but quickly moved onto mono-red and caw-blade until batterskull came out
when I just stopped playing constructed till rotation(was in the service at the time so it's not like grindy decks I didn't like was conducive to playing on the PT).
lol, it was arguably the best deck for a not-small window, why is bird into sword bad? feast and famine trigger on turn 3 is how you won games.
It was just something I hated playing against lol. I had someone go bird>WaP against me and I was like...shit.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:32 am

It turns out pristine talisman was a good fucking magic card.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:37 am

Yeah I liked playing the UW Pristine Talisman control deck with 1 Snapcaster for creatures and Gideon + Karn as win-cons.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:39 am

Never liked that version. I was off control by then.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:39 am

Though I never played it in tourney, Jund last season was a great deck. Yeah, thragtusk blah blah blah, but it was actually very skill rewarding.
I played with it while testing for GP Kitakyushu. I did not feel the deck was skill intensive at all. You just played the most expensive card in your hand and flipped bonfires all day.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:40 am

Remember when UW control mirrors were all about that OBNOXIOUS enchantment that cost 1W and got counters off no damage?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:40 am

Though I never played it in tourney, Jund last season was a great deck. Yeah, thragtusk blah blah blah, but it was actually very skill rewarding.
I played with it while testing for GP Kitakyushu. I did not feel the deck was skill intensive at all. You just played the most expensive card in your hand and flipped bonfires all day.
I am discussing the deck before Bonfire was printed, which actually weakened the decks results. There was no reason to not play Delver after it got Resto Angel.
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:43 am

I was talking about Jund in RtR / GC / DM / M14 standard.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:44 am

Though I never played it in tourney, Jund last season was a great deck. Yeah, thragtusk blah blah blah, but it was actually very skill rewarding.
I played with it while testing for GP Kitakyushu. I did not feel the deck was skill intensive at all. You just played the most expensive card in your hand and flipped bonfires all day.
A) I said skill rewarding, not skill intensive and

2) If that's your perception, you where PROBABLY less good then you think you are.

That's not exactly a neg. Most people are in fact much less good then they think they are.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:47 am

I was talking about Jund in RtR / GC / DM / M14 standard.
oh we're on different pages then
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:48 am

[deck]4 Copperline Gorge
9 Forest
2 Kessig Wolf Run
4 Mountain
4 Rootbound Crag

1 Acidic Slime
4 Birds of Paradise
1 Daybreak Ranger
4 Huntmaster of the Fells
4 Llanowar Elves
2 Phyrexian Metamorph
4 Strangleroot Geist
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
1 Batterskull
2 Brimstone Volley
3 Galvanic Blast
1 Garruk Relentless
4 Green Sun's Zenith
1 Red Sun's Zenith
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
3 Sword of War and Peace

1 Acidic Slime
2 Act of Aggression
2 Ancient Grudge
2 Arc Trail
1 Inferno Titan
2 Manabarbs
1 Overrun
1 Stingerfling Spider
1 Sword of Feast and Famine
1 Sword of War and Peace
1 Vorapede[/deck]

here is the deck that brought me so much joy, one of my ptq lists
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:48 am

I miss KWR.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:49 am

the glory of singletons
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:51 am

Meh I found Jund so boring to play. "What's the most expensive card in my hand? Play that".

Now, there were many ways to leverage play skill with the deck (Huntmaster, PWs and KWR) but that was only relevant if you were t just styling on someone with one of the deck's many absurd draws.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:51 am

I always find that strong players love singletons.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:52 am

gsz helped
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Postby Lightning_Dolt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:54 am

Though I never played it in tourney, Jund last season was a great deck. Yeah, thragtusk blah blah blah, but it was actually very skill rewarding.
I played with it while testing for GP Kitakyushu. I did not feel the deck was skill intensive at all. You just played the most expensive card in your hand and flipped bonfires all day.
A) I said skill rewarding, not skill intensive and

2) If that's
your perception, you where PROBABLY less good then you think you are.

That's not exactly a neg. Most people are in fact much less good then they think they are.
I never played it in a tournament, but I tested it along with Kibler Gruul and UWR control leading up to the GP for about six hours a night every night for four weeks with Solemn10.

We wanted to make sure we were well aware of how the decks worked, since we were fairly certain we would play against them.

I'm obviously not Reid Duke, but jund is the kind of deck that doesn't take a Reid Duke to play. It was just all the most broken cards in standard crammed into one deck. It had so many "Oh, I win" top decks, and the mirrors really seemed like it was just who drew more thragtusks.

I actually for UWR to ne more difficult, but also more powerful and rewarding.

Not my kind of deck at all, but I understand why that sort of deck appeals to some.

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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:55 am

There's something comforting about knowing that you're never drawing dead, hence one-ofs being awesome.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:57 am

Here's my Mono U list for the PTQ:

[deck]
Creatures
4 Cloudfin Raptor
4 Frostburn Weird
4 Judge's Familiar
4 Master of Waves
4 Nightveil Spectre
4 Tidebinder Mage

4 Thassa, God of the Sea

Planeswalkers
2 Jace, Architect of Thought

Artifacts
2 Bident of Thassa

Instants
2 Cyclonic Rift
1 Rapid Hybridization

Lands
20 Island
4 Mutavault
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx

Sideboard
1 Curse of the Swine
1 Cyclonic Rift
2 Domestication
4 Gainsay
2 Jace, Architect of Thought
2 Jace, Memory Adept
1 Negate
2 Rapid Hybridization
[/deck]

Pretty standard but meh, opinion appreciated.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 5:58 am

The new "put all your guys back in your hand" is probably worth a few slots for example.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:00 am

My RG PTQ deck:

[deck]4 Stromkirk Noble
4 Rakdos Cackler
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Flinthoof Boar
2 Lightning Mauler
2 Firefist Striker
4 Boros Reckoner
4 Ghor-Clan Rampager
3 Hellrider

3 Pillar of Flame
4 Searing Spear
1 Mizzium Mortars

11 Mountains
4 Stomping Ground
4 Rootbound Crag
2 Temple Garden

Sideboard
13 Cards
2 Ash Zealot[/deck]

Deck was a blast to play. Changed two cards in the board to ash zealots the night before. Got randomly paired down round 2 and beat an aristocrats player(worst matchup) because the two ash zealots dealt 9 damage from lingering souls flashback(s). Lost to an Esper player without sphinx's revelation because obzedat and lingering souls are really good and lost to the mirror to finish in top 16 =(
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:03 am

[quote="zemanjaski » Tue Jan 21, 2014 9:57 pm"]Here's my Mono U list for the PTQ:

[deck]
Creatures
4 Cloudfin Raptor
4 Frostburn Weird
4 Judge's Familiar
4 Master of Waves
4 Nightveil Spectre
4 Tidebinder Mage

4 Thassa, God of the Sea

Planeswalkers
2 Jace, Architect of Thought

Artifacts
2 Bident of Thassa

Instants
2 Cyclonic Rift
1 Rapid Hybridization

Lands
20 Island
4 Mutavault
1 Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx

Sideboard
1 Curse of the Swine
1 Cyclonic Rift
2 Domestication
4 Gainsay
2 Jace, Architect of Thought
2 Jace, Memory Adept
1 Negate
2 Rapid Hybridization
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Pretty standard but meh, opinion appreciated.[/quote:
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Same basic decks been in my gauntlet all season. You can probably cut a rapid from the board depending on how many green decks you expect to play. I also like having the third bident in the board since it's so good vs. all the decks you're trying to beat(uw/mbc/orzhov mid).
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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