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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:55 am

Guys, if you don't hear from me after this, send help o.o
I am currently drinking a can of self-heating hot cocoa made in malaysia...

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Tell me how that goes.

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:17 am

Disregard Mountains, acquire Islands
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:19 am

Got to playa few games with that UR Shackles deck in modern, it was good.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:36 am

Only deck I ever want to play in a modern tournament is some kind of Jund.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:12 am

Only deck I ever want to play in a modern tournament is some kind of Jund.
I played it all the time. Problem is that it can die to burn and has issues with Auriok Champion. Also, making it competitive good requires serious $. Goyfs not be cheap. Got tired of playing it and I kept getting hozed by Pod and Splinter twin. I have switched to Pod and/or American. Both are quite fun.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:13 am

Yep. Pod would be my choice for a Modern tournament.
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:14 am

Or Soul Sisters, of course, because lolsoulsisters
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:17 am

Yo Kaze, interested in reading my article and giving feedback?
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:20 am

I'm interested in reading it...
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Jack » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:24 am

Same.
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Postby hamfactorial » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:29 am

I'm interested in running to comment on it so CFB can get better click-through stats.

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If this goes well I am asking for a raise.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:33 am

put my name in it
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:34 am

Only deck I ever want to play in a modern tournament is some kind of Jund.
I played it all the time. Problem is that it can die to burn and has issues with Auriok Champion. Also, making it competitive good requires serious $. Goyfs not be cheap. Got tired of playing it and I kept getting hozed by Pod and Splinter twin. I have switched to Pod and/or American. Both are quite fun.
i've played hundreds of games of modern and never seen auriok champion cast once
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby hamfactorial » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:36 am

It's a budg caj all-star

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:40 am

put my name in it
When we start working together next season, sure. I like to give credit where it is due.

Thoughts on UW vs Mono U devotion kait? Most players tell me that it is very favourable for UW Control but Sam Pardee says the exact opposite.
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Postby Sasky » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:44 am

I've played it a few times in bw tokens, but never played against it once.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:45 am

Mono-blue this season seems like RB zombies in delver standard. You think the matchup goes one way playing against decent to good players until you end up against a master of the archetype and then you're like "...ok? Guess I'm dead."

RE Auriok CHampion: same exp as Sasky.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:47 am

Yo Kaze, interested in reading my article and giving feedback?
You can send it my way if you like.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:47 am

Yeah I never understood why people thought Zombies were good against Delver, I always won that.

I miss Delver days.
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Postby Helios » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:55 am

Z do you want line-for-line, hardcore grammar correction like last time or just general thoughts?

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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:57 am

If you have the time, same as last time. You're several levels above me as a writer.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:59 am

Nykthos Green in modern actually looks pretty sweet. Primeval Titan is just good in anything, surprise surprise.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:02 am

Only deck I ever want to play in a modern tournament is some kind of Jund.
I played it all the time. Problem is that it can die to burn and has issues with Auriok Champion. Also, making it competitive good requires serious $. Goyfs not be cheap. Got tired of playing it and I kept getting hozed by Pod and Splinter twin. I have switched to Pod and/or American. Both are quite fun.
i'
ve played hundreds of games of modern and never seen auriok champion cast once
My local FNM has a lot of white decks. I see quite a few A.C.'s, but they are side boarded. You live in Texas?
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:04 am

put my name in it
When we start working together next season, sure. I like to give credit where it is due.

Thoughts on UW vs Mono U devotion kait? Most players tell me that it is very favourable for UW Control but Sam Pardee says the exact opposite.
the mono blue lists have changed a bit to be more resilient to supreme verdict decks. i personally think it still favors uw.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:07 am

My sideboard plan is to side out Cloudfin and Frostburn (too mana intensive) and bring in Planeswalkers and counterspells; seems pretty effective in testing.
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Postby LP, of the Fires » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:12 am

Don't ever play more then one judges familiar at a time seems like something important to note. Neither Thassa nor master of waves seems amazing in this matchup, though I'm thinking master is the last card I'm looking to trim. THassa is firmly on the chopping block as scry 1 isn't worth a card.

Bident and mutavault seem like the most important tools you have.
You gotta understand, I love the beatdown. I really do. I always have.

Beatdown is hard, though.


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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:19 am

Jace Architect of Thought is the best card, not close. Spectre is insane too.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:24 am

Thassa is fine vs control IMO
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:28 am

Agree.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:29 am

You're already doing better by just discussing blue cards.
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:30 am

The only colour I have never really played much of is White (outside of control cards).
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:30 am

Except for UW delver / UW cawblade ofc.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:34 am

I like white in EDH, but that's about it.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:10 am

I love white. 8.5 tails and Thalia are some of my favorite cards, with Brimaz and Spirit of the Labyrinth about to join them. Geist of Saint Traft is in there too, as UW is my favorite color combination.

UW
UB
RG

Those are my three favorites to play, although RB is fun with the right card pool.
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Postby photodyer » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:11 am

Yeah I never understood why people thought Zombies were good against Delver, I always won that.

I miss Delver days.
I don't miss Delver (as someone who was always across the table), but I agree with you 100% about the Zombie matchup. I generally felt at least even on Br Zombies against UW G1, but after they boarded in Purge and Timely I was generally hosed if they saw them (particularly if they were on the Voltron plan and could lock me out long enough to get something suited up). Granted, I was no master of the format, but I knew my deck inside-out and was playing on a level beyond my current uber-casual status.

James, feel free to send your article my way if you're still looking for input...obviously my offer comes from the writing and
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Postby zemanjaski » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:13 am

Esper Spirits is my favourite deck in the last few years, but it was so easily hated out.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Wed Jan 22, 2014 4:19 am

I've had a few favorites, but the deck that brought me the most success was RG Aggro with GSZ, Huntmaster, Strangleroot Geist, etc. That deck versus Delver (Pre-Avacyn Restored Standard) is the most skill-intensive match I've played in Standard in a long time. Huntmaster triggers versus Vapor Snag and Snapcaster, such a magnificent game of chess. It also brought me a lot of success, with a top 32 and a top 12 placing in 600+ person online PTQ's, missing top eight in the latter in the final round by losing game three to Delver, the same deck I'd beaten four or five times in the tournament, along with the mirror, Wolf Run Ramp and mono red. Back then there wasn't 10,000 decks seeing play, the dilution of Standard makes it less interesting to me.
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