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Postby windstrider » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:12 pm

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:18 pm

Also, dude, I don't think "Chinaman" is the preferred nomenclature...

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My son, Alexander, was born just around 1:30 today. He weighs 9 lbs., 12 oz. and is 22 inches long, so he's a big boy.

He scared us all by not breathing after he was born. Our room flooded with emergency personnel, and they worked to get him breathing on his own. The word Code rang out more than once. He fine now, but the NICU has him for the next few hours to make sure he stays that way.
I can't imagine the kind of scare that is, but here's hoping he's a healthy lad and home with you guys very soon.
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Postby Purp » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:28 pm

[deck]Lands: 25
4 Maze's End
2 Azorius Guildgate
2 Dimir Guildgate
2 Golgari Guildgate
1 Gruul Guildgate
2 Izzet Guildgate
2 Orzhov Guildgate
1 Rakdos Guildgate
2 Selesnya Guildgate
2 Boros Guildgate
2 Simic Guildgate
1 Forest
2 Island

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4 Druid's Delieverance
4 Defend the Hearth
3 Riot Control
2 Sphinx's Rev
1 Cyclonic Rift


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4 Supreme Verdict
3 Detention Sphere
2 Urban Evolution
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Postby Khaospawn » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:29 pm

Also, dude, I don't think "Chinaman" is the preferred nomenclature...
You look like you got that shirt off a dead Chinese.



I have no idea why your post made me think of an obscure line from Back to the Future 3, but it did.
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Postby MattT » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:43 pm

Maybe there's a UB Heroic deck? Agent of Fates, Artisan of Forms, Triton Treasure Hunter? Triton Tactics is good and untaps Pain Seer...

Tap Island
Triton Tactics targeting Agent of Fates and Pain Seer
You sac a guy, I draw a card
Block and eat your guy
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Mmmm UB tempo....
More ruminating on this. Not Heroic, but....

Thoughtseize/Removal/Counters + Lazav would be similar to what Artisan + Tactics would with the bonus of Hexproof and would almost get Phenax online (supposing he does something relevant. Guessing discard when X). It could be a UB Devotion deck with the aim of landing Lazav and Phenax like MonoB want to land something plus Gary, but with the big difference that when we UP D.Demon we get one for ourselves.

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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:51 pm

B/w tempo? Thoughtseize, Duress, Sin Collector, Lifebane Zombie, Tormented Hero, Mogis's Marauder, Banisher Priest, Xathrid Necromancer, Pain Seer, removal?

Probably strictly worse than B/w control/midrange running Blood Baron, unless you can hope to strip him with Thoughtseize or Lifebane. Maybe a small red splash for Mortars and Dreadbore, and Rakdos's Return from the board. Could run Exava too, I suppose.

Could also put in Agent of Fates and some heroic enablers for him and Tormented Hero.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:49 pm

Those ideas are all lousy, the new sweeper alone is going to dismantle you.
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:52 pm

Those ideas are all lousy, the new sweeper alone is going to dismantle you.
hence why it's a discard/tempo deck with protection like Xathrid Necromancer?
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Postby Wraith223 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:03 pm

Fated Infatuation and Herald of Torment look really cool. The lion king is mehhh as I run a lot of kill spells. Cool Commander card though for cheap cmc. On Fated Infatuation, I am not sure where that would go in Standard or Modern? Maybe Tron with Wormcoil Engine? Commander use is pure dick with certain Legendary Dudes (Kokosho, Kiega, and the white one).

REALLY like the new Demon as I finding Nightveil Spectors sort of lacking after a while.
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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:05 pm

Those ideas are all lousy, the new sweeper alone is going to dismantle you.
hence why it's a discard/tempo deck with protection like Xathrid Necromancer?
prognosis negative
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Postby Wraith223 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:11 pm

Question.

Can I bestow on Mutuvault and have the it stick as +1+1 counters do? Herald of Torment is what I want to Bestow on to swing five flying for multiple turns against UW.
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Postby redthirst » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:13 pm

Not a fan of the Infatuation - I don't like any copy effect that only targets something you control. There's a big difference between cloning the best creature on the board and cloning the best creature you control. One can regularly dig you out of a bad situation while the other is usually either useless or win more.

Wraith: no, a creature aura will fall off of anything that is no longer a creature.
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Postby DroppinSuga » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:14 pm

I like the wrath that kills Planeswalkers. That's fun.
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Postby rcwraspy » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:15 pm

Those ideas are all lousy, the new sweeper alone is going to dismantle you.
hence why it's a discard/tempo deck with protection like Xathrid Necromancer?
prognosis negative
prognos this.
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Postby Wraith223 » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:16 pm

Not a fan of the Infatuation - I don't like any copy effect that only targets something you control. There's a big difference between cloning the best creature on the board and cloning the best creature you control. One can regularly dig you out of a bad situation while the other is usually either useless or win more.

Wraith: no, a creature aura will fall off of anything that is no longer a creature.
Damn. Well I can at least make Grey Merchant more of a threat and have a dude after wrath.
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Postby redthirst » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:18 pm

I want to Enchant Pain Seer. Sure Grizzly Bob ain't that great late game, but what about Juzam Bob?
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Postby redthirst » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:18 pm

I pay the Iron Price for my victories.
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Originally posted by Dechs Kaison on MTGS
redthirst is redthirst, fifth Horseman of the Apocalypse. He was the leader of the Fires of Salvation, the only clan I'm aware of to get modded off the forums so hard they made their own forums.

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Postby Kaitscralt » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:21 pm

That clone card sucks.
Standard hobos who play budget garbage should be looked upon with suspicion.

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:29 pm

I like watching Michael Jacob's stream, but I just noticed that he does that snarky Berkeley liberal sorority girl shit where he says something condescending and ends the sentence with "so..."

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Postby Self Medicated » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:48 pm

Encountered someone today on the way to work that enjoyed driving in both lanes at the same time. It's probably a good thing I don't have a gun in my truck.
Is this rare where you're from?

I don't think you'd like driving in Boston.
Yeah, it's not a regular thing. I just hate that shit when I'm driving down a narrow country road. It's like, "Hi. You can see me. You can see that my truck is bigger than your car. Are you capable of making the connection that if you hit me, it will be worse for you than it will be for me?"

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you're probably right. I hate driving in big cities. Last time I drove down to San Francisco for a Giants game, I was very stressed.

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Postby Valdarith » Fri Jan 17, 2014 5:56 pm

Not a fan of the Infatuation - I don't like any copy effect that only targets something you control. There's a big difference between cloning the best creature on the board and cloning the best creature you control. One can regularly dig you out of a bad situation while the other is usually either useless or win more.

Wraith: no, a creature aura will fall off of anything that is no longer a creature.
If it cloned any creature it would immediately replace Threads of Disloyalty for Merfolk and UR Delver as the card of choice to fight Jund and any deck running fat creatures they otherwise cannot deal with easily.

Ham - I imagine he was a lot nicer before he had trolls coming onto his stream making stupid, baseless statements. I mean really,
have you seen some of the crap that gets suggested in chat?
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Postby MattT » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:02 pm

Infatuation is a Heroic Enabler if nothing else in standard.

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:24 pm

Not a fan of the Infatuation - I don't like any copy effect that only targets something you control. There's a big difference between cloning the best creature on the board and cloning the best creature you control. One can regularly dig you out of a bad situation while the other is usually either useless or win more.

Wraith: no, a creature aura will fall off of anything that is no longer a creature.
If it cloned any creature it would immediately replace Threads of Disloyalty for Merfolk and UR Delver as the card of choice to fight Jund and any deck running fat creatures they
otherwise cannot deal with easily.

Ham - I imagine he was a lot nicer before he had trolls coming onto his stream making stupid, baseless statements. I mean really, have you seen some of the crap that gets suggested in chat?
Oh man, I'm not sure how people can be that bad. Some of his visitors are truly terrible at the game suggesting worst lines of play.

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Postby Purp » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:25 pm

I like watching Michael Jacob's stream, but I just noticed that he does that snarky Berkeley liberal sorority girl shit where he says something condescending and ends the sentence with "so..."
I hate MJ. He's not very good, and is a total dick to his viewers. He can't play red for shit, and is quick to call a deck terrible when he misplays.
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Postby Alex » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:37 pm

Not a fan of the Infatuation - I don't like any copy effect that only targets something you control. There's a big difference between cloning the best creature on the board and cloning the best creature you control. One can regularly dig you out of a bad situation while the other is usually either useless or win more.

Wraith: no, a creature aura will fall off of anything that is no longer a creature.
If it cloned any
creature it would immediately replace Threads of Disloyalty for Merfolk and UR Delver as the card of choice to fight Jund and any deck running fat creatures they otherwise cannot deal with easily.

Ham - I imagine he was a lot nicer before he had trolls coming onto his stream making stupid, baseless statements. I mean really, have you seen some of the crap that gets suggested in chat?
Oh man, I'm not sure how people can be that bad. Some of his visitors are truly terrible at the game suggesting worst lines of play.
So basically it was like when I was on your stream, except I had a voice where they didn't. Nice! I achieved next level trolling!

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:43 pm

I like watching Michael Jacob's stream, but I just noticed that he does that snarky Berkeley liberal sorority girl shit where he says something condescending and ends the sentence with "so..."
I hate MJ. He's not very good, and is a total dick to his viewers. He can't play red for shit, and is quick to call a deck terrible when he misplays.
For every hour that I watch, 45 minutes is him berating his chat room, 10 is him being a snarky bitch but randomly he'll spend a minute talking about Magic theory or discuss why a certain metagame is hostile to a card or
deck. I get a lot from that, but it's hard sifting through the chaff.

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:44 pm

Not a fan of the Infatuation - I don't like any copy effect that only targets something you control. There's a big difference between cloning the best creature on the board and cloning the best creature you control. One can regularly dig you out of a bad situation while the other is
usually either useless or win more.

Wraith: no, a creature aura will fall off of anything that is no longer a creature.
If it cloned any creature it would immediately replace Threads of Disloyalty for Merfolk and UR Delver as the card of choice to fight Jund and any deck running fat creatures they otherwise cannot deal with easily.

Ham - I imagine he was a lot nicer before he had trolls coming onto his stream making stupid, baseless statements. I mean really, have you seen some of the crap that gets suggested in chat?
Oh man, I'm not sure how people can be that bad. Some of his visitors are truly terrible at the game suggesting worst lines of play.
So basically it was like when I was on your stream, except I had a voice where they didn't. Nice! I achieved next level trolling!
Yes, but you're entertaining and likeable.

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Postby Alex » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:47 pm

What terrifies me most is that I wasn't actually trying to be either one of those things. I might be getting better at this. :scared:

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:50 pm

Your Asperger's has gotten so severe that it reset and started back at zero.

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Postby Purp » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:51 pm

I am also banned from MJ chat. He was trying out Pyro deck and was bashing it so hard because he kept misplaying. I told him "MJ you should change your name from DarkestMage to DarkestBaddie because you are terrible at slinging spells"
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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:51 pm

My only regret is that the stream featuring the format-warping Boros Badstuff brew was lost.

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Postby Alex » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:54 pm

That fucking stream was the worst. I'm honestly glad it's gone, because there was plenty for both of us to be ashamed of in that broadcast. :?

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Postby Alex » Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:58 pm

I mean, I actually encouraged you to play Truefire Paladin...

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Postby hamfactorial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:04 pm

But bro, dat vigilance!

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Postby Valdarith » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:06 pm

Next thing you know he'll be jamming four Firemane Avenger in his list.
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Postby Alex » Fri Jan 17, 2014 7:11 pm

Next thing you know he'll be jamming four Firemane Avenger in his list.
Hey now, I'm not insane. I'd go more conservative.

2 Firemane Avenger, 2 Tajic, Blade of the Legion. :thumbsup:

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