What Rustles Your Jimmies in EDH?

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What Rustles Your Jimmies in EDH?

Postby Helios » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:11 pm

For le complaints.

Mine?
- Recursion
- Hexproof
- Protection
- Ramp

Essentially: Non-interactive things. I pretty much hate 'Battlecruiser' Magic where the goal is to see who can get their biggest baddie out first (answer: the one with the most ramp). The more back-and-forth, the more likely both players are to come out of the game with a sense of satisfaction - even if something crazy didn't happen.

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Postby redthirst » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:17 pm

People who bitch about EDH being a "fun" format and have a definition of fun that basically boils down to "nothing that keeps me from doing exactly what I want and winning every game".

They play a bunch of durdly expensive spells? MLD is against the spirit of EDH.
They play Combo? Counters and spot removal are against the spirit of EDH.
They play a ton of dudes? Wrath effects are against the spirit of EDH.

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:17 pm

Sharuum + Sculpting Steel
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Postby Helios » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:22 pm

People who think "the Spirit of EDH" is a defined, objective thing.

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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:26 pm

1. Gaddock Teeg - locks folks out of games
2. Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, I hate how your lands stay tapped after killing him.
3. Child of Alara, nothing lives very long
4. Decks that make it impossible for anyone to win just to draw the game out.
5. Decks that steal creatures constantly.
6. People who blow up shit that was no threat just to spite others.
7. Extort decks, to much life gain for such a litle cost
8. Sheoldred, Whispering One, gets out of hand fast with more graveyard recurrsion
9. Glissa decks. Should I say anything more?
10. People who won't play commander cause they think it is boring or a waste of money.
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Postby Alex » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:28 pm

People who think "the Spirit of EDH" is a defined, objective thing.
You should see the fucking morons in this Facebook group tell me that I don't understand the "spirit of EDH" and gets buttmad when I tell him that he's bad at deckbuilding.

See the comments on the Consecrated Sphinx thread. https://www.facebook.com/groups/casualnet/

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Postby DroppinSuga » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:34 pm

Humility

That card angers me. He also had the Elspeth Emblem that made everything indestructible and I could not find my Merciless Eviction
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:39 pm

Humility

That card angers me. He also had the Elspeth Emblem that made everything indestructible and I could not find my Merciless Eviction
That is Gaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy!

Kervek, the Merciless + War's Toll is prety bad to.
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Postby DarthStabber » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:45 pm

Gaddock Teeg, in a format with bunches of BIG SPELLS is not fun. I don't mind counter or kill spells, i've even had some good fun with decree of silence and proliferate, but having that kind of reliable stopping power on a commander is an insane amount of virtual card advantage, especially in the colors he's in.
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Postby Alex » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:51 pm

I don't mind Gaddok Teeg, personally. He dies to basically everything, and if you know he's in your playgroup, you can build around that.

I play Path to Exile/Swords to Plowshares/Journey to Nowhere/Oblivion Ring/Detention Sphere as my ways to deal with him, and nobody even plays him at our store. :shrug: And these cards aren't even central to my deck.

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Postby DroppinSuga » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:53 pm

Detention Sphere on Gaddock for funsies.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:57 pm

Gaddock Teeg, in a format with bunches of BIG SPELLS is not fun. I don't mind counter or kill spells, i've even had some good fun with decree of silence and proliferate, but having that kind of reliable stopping power on a commander is an insane amount of virtual card advantage, especially in the colors he's in.
The guy who plays adds tons of indestructable shit to it to protect Teeg. If he plays Privilidged Position Before Teeg; :no2:. He also plays tons of creatures with protection from colors. Sigarda hits the board often as well.
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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 9:58 pm

If I play my Kaalia deck; I will kill Teeg decks. Nekusar has issues with Teeg though.
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Postby DarthStabber » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:06 pm

I play against a wide variety of different people in different groups. I am running enough cheap kill in my nekusar deck that the first couple times he hits play it souldn't be a major issue, but the inability to hit him with sweeprs is annoying, and my ezuri deck only has 3 spells stopped by him. The issue is the ease of reusing him is the problem. If he were part of the other 99 I would have no issues, but the replayability makes it painful.
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Postby Helios » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:12 pm

FOS EDH Profiles:

Wraith: "I don't like people who stop me from doing my thing."
TheStoreGuy: "My thing stops people from doing their thing"
Alex & Red: "Just play the best cards, duh. Y u bad bro?"
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Postby Alex » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:17 pm

FOS EDH Profiles:
Alex & Red: "Just play the best cards, duh. Y u bad bro?"
I don't feel that way at all.

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Postby Helios » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:23 pm

I don't mind Gaddok Teeg, personally. He dies to basically everything, and if you know he's in your playgroup, you can build around that.

I play Path to Exile/Swords to Plowshares/Journey to Nowhere/Oblivion Ring/Detention Sphere as my ways to deal with him, and nobody even plays him at our store. :shrug: And these cards aren't even central to my deck.
(totally just messing with you)

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Postby Wraith223 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:26 pm

FOS EDH Profiles:

Wraith: "I don't like people who stop me from doing my thing."
TheStoreGuy: "My thing stops people from doing their thing"
Alex & Red: "Just play the best cards, duh. Y u bad bro?"
Kaze: "Fuck Sharuum"
Helios: "I play 68 plains"
It's the Teeg deck in entirety that I hate. He did a good job putting it together. He draws perfect everytime as well. Drives me nuts.
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Postby Helios » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:32 pm

If you really think the deck is that big of a problem, srsly, just talk to the guy. Alex is totally right, that's the best solution. It always is.

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Postby DroppinSuga » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:33 pm

I play Sharuum as my general sometimes. :D
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Postby Pyreheart Bezerra » Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:45 pm

Deadeye Navigator + Sylvan Primordial. Good job, you just lost all your friends!!
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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:36 pm

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=171763#p171763:9uma553y]Wraith223 » Wed Jan 08, 2014 2:26 pm[/url:9uma553y]":9uma553y]1. [card:9uma553y]Gaddock Teeg[/card:9uma553y] - locks folks out of games
2. [card:9uma553y]Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger[/card:9uma553y], I hate how your lands stay tapped after killing him.
3. [card:9uma553y]Child of Alara[/card:9uma553y], nothing lives very long
4. Decks that make it impossible for anyone to win just to draw the game out.
5. Decks that steal creatures constantly.
6. People who blow up shit that was no threat just to spite others.
7. Extort decks, to much life gain for such a litle cost
8. [card:9uma553y]Sheoldred, Whispering One[/card:9uma553y], gets out of hand fast with more graveyard recurrsion
9. Glissa decks. Should I say anything more?[/quote:9uma553y]

I like all of those things

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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:36 pm

especially that first one

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Postby Mcdonalds » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:38 pm

People that get butt mad over Armageddon/(*insert 'dick' card here) I play EDH to play all the cool cards that are largely garbage/banned in other formats (such as Yawgmoth's Bargain, Necropotence, Strip Mine, GAUNTLET OF POWER), Armageddon is one of them.

Killed the format for me for a bit.

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Postby Wraith223 » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:21 am

1. Gaddock Teeg - locks folks out of games
2. Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger, I hate how your lands stay tapped after killing him.
3. Child of Alara, nothing lives very long
4. Decks that make it impossible for anyone to win just to draw the game out.
5. Decks that steal creatures constantly.
6. People who blow up shit that was no threat just to spite others.
7. Extort decks, to much life gain for such a litle cost
8. Sheoldred, Whispering One, gets out of hand fast with more
graveyard recurrsion
9. Glissa decks. Should I say anything more?
I like all of those things
:confused2: You play this stuff or hate playing against it?
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Postby Mcdonalds » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:17 am

Gaddock Teeg and I go back

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Postby Azrael » Thu Jan 09, 2014 3:18 am

Pretty much nothing bothers me. *shrug*

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Postby PirateKingAtomsk » Thu Jan 09, 2014 5:36 am

Deadeye Navigator + Sylvan Primordial. Good job, you just lost all your friends!!
Deadeye Navigator + Palinchron + Ashen Rider works better. :smileup:

I'm not saying splinter twin decks are unfair, it just sucks losing out of nowhere to them. :shrug:
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Postby Kazekirimaru » Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:46 am

I play Sharuum as my general sometimes. :D
Fuck Sharuum.

Nah, I don't really mind it as much as I mind infinite Nevinyrral's Disk.

I'm doing that this week to stop the super combo player. :D
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Postby Jack » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:55 pm

Players that will become hell bent on killing you because you hit them with a 2/2 for a few turns while they were struggling to get started.
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Postby Jack » Thu Jan 09, 2014 12:56 pm

"why me? He's a much bigger threat"
"because you hurt me."
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Postby Khaospawn » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:57 pm

People with piss-poor threat assessment.
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Postby Alex » Thu Jan 09, 2014 8:59 pm

"why me? He's a much bigger threat"
"because you hurt me."
Happens to me a lot when I play, too. I'll usually cast Sygg on 4, which lets me hit people a few times before anything starts really happening, and they get super buttmad. I'm like "It's literally only 2 damage."

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Postby Helios » Thu Jan 09, 2014 9:00 pm

I had 15 Plains in play and a Leonin Arbiter, my opponent had like 5 swamps (a Cabal Coffers got Strip Mined) and was stuck on mana...but because he had a Lord of the Void, the 3rd player assumed he was a bigger threat.

They shoulda killed me while they had the chance >:)

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Postby Kazekirimaru » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:13 pm

I play Sharuum as my general sometimes. :D
Fuck Sharuum.

Nah, I don't really mind it as much as I mind infinite Nevinyrral's Disk.

I'm doing that this week to stop the super combo player. :D
Suga, I believe you clicked "edit" instead of "quote" here.
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Postby redthirst » Thu Jan 09, 2014 10:14 pm

I play Sharuum as my general sometimes. :D
Fuck Sharuum.

Nah, I don't really mind it as much as I mind infinite Nevinyrral's Disk.

I'm doing that this week to stop the super combo player. :D
nSuga, I believe you clicked "edit" instead of "quote" here.
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Great guy to have around? Hell yes.
I love the D...

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Postby Khaospawn » Mon Jan 13, 2014 4:58 pm

Go home, Suga, you're drunk.
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Postby Dechs Kaison » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:15 pm

I despise people who try to define what fun is and ban cards/archetypes because they're not fun.

Side note: My new hobby is finding Cockatrice "No MLD" games and playing the Stasis version of my Zedruu deck. Basically I know that means the host is a G or UG ramp-derp player and I want to hose him something fierce. It doesn't destroy lands; you just can't untap them.
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Postby Jivanmukta » Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:18 pm

Hell is other players.

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Postby Phil » Sun Jan 19, 2014 12:40 pm

Hell is other players.
This. It's kind of sad I have to avoid an entire game store's EDH night because the players that show up there suck at the game and are happy to sit in their shit behind their "It's casual, we don't do that" fort.

It also sucks because that particular store sells beer... on tap. I want to drink a glass of beer while playing magic. But not if some dipshit with a troll tribal deck is going to complain and scoop because of a strip mine.
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