pauper discussion

[poggydude]

well you have to start somehwere...if anyone wants to discuss this format id love to help out. this is one of my favorite formats and id like to think i know a good bit about it.

so yeah...

[Checkbox]

I know you can make a lot of bank on MODO with this. How can I do such a thing?

[poggydude]

id start with building a deck and learning it well.

what archetypes(combo, control, aggro) do you best identify with?

[Checkbox]

In Legacy, I play Enchantress because I have a lot of fun playing it. I like decks where my choices impact the game, so I guess I probably wouldn't be drawn to an aggro deck too much (although I do enjoy playing them, but if I was trying to go infinite with Pauper, I probably would get bored of it eventually).

Combo decks are also something I enjoy quite a bit. What are the combo and control options?

[poggydude]

combo:storm, infect
control:delver(some builds are more tempo based) monoblack rats. tortured existence

my favorite deck is a combo/control deck known as damn rats

it involves filling your yard with cycling creatures to power out songs of the damned and gnaw to the bone. i can probably write a primer on that deck if need be

[Checkbox]

Hook me up. Is it cheapish?

[Checkbox]

I would also be interested in storm lists.

[poggydude]

you can find any storm list on the modo decklist database(every event has at least one)
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Digital/Ma ... shappening
on the sidebar

my damn rats list should be pretty cheap, depnding on crypt rats prices, it runs a lot of "chaff"

[deck]
4 crypt rats
2 consume spirit
4 songs of the damned
3 krosan tusker
4 pit keeper
4 fume spitter
4 monstrous carabid
4 deadshot minotaur
4 gnaw to the bone
3 viscera dragger
4 grisly salvage
3 forests
8 swamps
3 barren moor
1 mountain
2 evolving wilds
3 terramorphic expanse
[/deck]
cycle cycle cycle use rats to sweep every once and a while, use gnaw to make your life total insane, win with a ridiculous rats, consume spirit, or simply beating with the cyclers

[poggydude]

if you make damn rats a viable deck on modo youll be my hero, i dont play modo so i cant do it myself

[PhantomS]

if you make damn rats a viable deck on modo youll be my hero, i dont play modo so i cant do it myself

Deck looks neat. I think I can what I don't have of this from my brother. If I can I'll at least try it out. Any sideboard ideas?

[Checkbox]

asshole, I wanted to make it a viable deck!

[poggydude]

if you make damn rats a viable deck on modo youll be my hero, i dont play modo so i cant do it myself

Deck looks neat. I think I can what I don't have of this from my brother. If I can I'll at least try it out. Any sideboard ideas?

snuff outs for infect(maybe scars too because infect is scary you guise)
raven's crime and duress for temporal fissure storm/post
snuffouts also go in for post if they have crusher because you actuallu cant beat that card
architects of will to
correct for fume spitters vs creature light decks(it helps speed up the decks combo which is usually what you need vs those decks)
mulch can fill that same role but with grisly salvage you risk going too creature light
nature's claim so you dont die vs affinity, you could potentially go for ancient grudge thanks to salvage and the lone red source


i think ive covered the worst matchups, the best matchups tend to be any creature based deck that is too slow to roll you before gnaws start hitting
delver decks can be hard if you play vs a competent pilot but finding a pilot that knows how to handle this deck properly is rare

EDIT:checkbox, you can both work on getting this to money, whoever does it first will earn worship.

[Checkbox]

Lol I won't be able to do it for a while, my money is tied up in Xmas right now.

[PhantomS]

Lol I won't be able to do it for a while, my money is tied up in Xmas right now.

It's Pauper... the deck costs like three dollars...

[Checkbox]

but then you have to pay for events.

and my friend tells me its a bad tier 3 deck

[poggydude]

it is a GOOD tier three deck. it is a bad tier one and two deck

also as phantomomo said, it is three bucks and not much more to enter an event, how much of a broke ass bitch are you?

[PhantomS]

If you win you make money, albeit not that much/time, but whatever.

[Checkbox]

I just ordered a $260 booster box for a dead card game. I'm pretty broke right now.

[jonnyjonski]

russian books everywhere!

[Caspid]

Anyone play Delver? I'd love to talk about/play it with knowledgeable folk who can talk strats and point out misplays.

[Bhikku]

got trounced by a artifact affinity deck yesterday, so if you can't beat 'em....copy their deck!

[deck]Creature (23)
4x Atog
4x Carapace Forger
4x Disciple of the Vault
4x Frogmite
4x Myr Enforcer
3x Somber Hoverguard
Sorcery (7)
2x Distortion Strike
3x Rush of Knowledge
2x Thoughtcast
Land (17)
1x Darksteel Citadel
4x Great Furnace
4x Seat of the Synod
4x Tree of Tales
4x Vault of Whispers
Artifact (8)
2x Chromatic Sphere
2x Chromatic Star
4x Springleaf Drum
Instant (5)
2x Fling
3x Galvanic Blast[/deck]

[Bhikku]

gonna retire the goblin deck and use the bones for

[deck]4 Keldon Marauders
4 Spark Elemental
Creatures [8]
4 Fireblast
4 Incinerate
4 Lava Spike
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Needle Drop
4 Rift Bolt
2 Shard Volley
4 Thunderbolt
4 Volcanic Hammer
Spells [33]
4 Forgotten Cave
15 Mountain[/deck]


or

[deck]Sorcery (19)
4x Chain Lightning
3x Firebolt
4x Flame Rift
4x Lava Spike
4x Rift Bolt
Land (20)
20x Mountain
Instant (13)
4x Lightning Bolt
3x Searing Blaze
4x Shard Volley
2x Staggershock
Creature (8)
4x Keldon Marauders
4x Kiln Fiend[/deck]

[Bhikku]

[deck]MAINDECK
Creatures
4 Delver of Secrets
4 Goblin Electromancer
4 Stitched Drake
3 Frostburn Weird
Spells
4 Searing Spear
4 Think Twice
4 Thought Scour
3 Negate
3 Pillar of Flame
2 Brimstone Volley
2 Essence Scatter
1 Cancel
1 Electrickery
Lands
8 Island
5 Mountain
4 Evolving Wilds
4 Izzet Guildgate
SIDEBOARD
3 Electrickery
2 Silent Departure
2 Thunderbolt
2 Essence Scatter
1 Stormbound Geist
1 Cancel
1 Dispel
1 Negate
1 Geistflame
1 Brimstone Volley[/deck]
standard pauper deck that looks tasty:

[Zooligan]

So what happened to the Pauper DE's on MODO? Is Wizards pulling the plug on the format? I just signed up for MODO specifically to play Pauper, and now the best event series is gone!?!

[magicdownunder]

So what happened to the Pauper DE's on MODO? Is Wizards pulling the plug on the format? I just signed up for MODO specifically to play Pauper, and now the best event series is gone!?!

They removed it because its doesn't encourage people to buy booster packs so Wizards just loses money in the end with all the payouts.

It also happens to be the 'grinders' format of choice, it where I also started - that said you can still profit from 8-Mans and 2-Mans but it requires flawless playing or picking up broken decks.

[Zooligan]

No format besides Sealed/Draft "encourages" people to buy boosters, does it? Even Standard Constructed pushes people to buy singles. Why the war on commons? Seems like they are alienating folks like me who see Pauper as an entry point from getting into online play.

[magicdownunder]

No format besides Sealed/Draft "encourages" people to buy boosters, does it? Even Standard Constructed pushes people to buy singles. Why the war on commons? Seems like they are alienating folks like me who see Pauper as an entry point from getting into online play.

The other formats require more Bomb rares, which forces bots to purchase boosters and crack them open in order to sell the singles to players - Pauper requires common which are much easier to find thus limited the amount of boosters which need to be cracked opened.

[Zooligan]

Ah, I see. The bot owners crack the packs. I figured they just bought cards from players and made their $$ by their buy/sell spread.

[Bhikku]

Wait, they got rid of pauper?

[Zooligan]

The Daily Events, yes. There's still Premier Events and other queues, plus privately run tournaments.

[Bhikku]

lame...