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You say you want me lynched, but you vote for G_R when my wagon falls apart.
I refused to vote for G_R for reasons you ignored, then declined to comment on. I haven't turned on you at all, I haven't even completed a re-read of your posts. I make a joking reference to you being scum and you lose your shit. You went from being calm and analytical to trying to intimidate me and calling my posts "bullshit".
Thing is, I am pretty sure you're frustrated town, that's why I don't want to vote for you. I have G_R neutral. I can see lynching him in a day or two if he doesn't start helping town.
What are your thoughts on imopen Pie?
I refused to vote for G_R for reasons you ignored, then declined to comment on. I haven't turned on you at all, I haven't even completed a re-read of your posts. I make a joking reference to you being scum and you lose your shit. You went from being calm and analytical to trying to intimidate me and calling my posts "bullshit".
Thing is, I am pretty sure you're frustrated town, that's why I don't want to vote for you. I have G_R neutral. I can see lynching him in a day or two if he doesn't start helping town.
What are your thoughts on imopen Pie?
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You say you want me lynched, but you vote for G_R when my wagon falls apart.
Wrong. WRONG.You flip flop between G_R and me; you switched to G_R after the momentum of the wagon against me started to dissipate.
zemanjaski (3) - wraith223, stardust, imopen2, GR - was your wagon, IIRC. Then they jumped off onto freedom (you leading it with 88, then Star, GR unvoted you, imopen voted freedom,
then wraith jumped on). I came in and made my huge post. Then imopen voted you and I voted you after that. You unvoted freedom. We had our little chat last evening (last half of p5), I woke up and logged on then unvoted you and tried baiting you onto GR, while still calling you scum (see: my convo with Wraith on p7). It's been me and imopen on you since then. Your wagon fell apart before I even made my huge PBPA, this is a blatant misrepresentation.
Ahem.I haven't turned on you at all, I haven't even completed a re-read of your posts. I make a joking reference to you being scum and you lose your shit.
Not worth mentioning if you didn't want to sow seeds of doubt.Furhter to before, in Ragnarok Pie was scum and did not protect either myself or Tubehunter (both noob town) when we were under duress;
that Pie is standing up for Freedom here suggests to me that either:
- Pie is town and wants to prevent a mislynch;
- They're scum buddies.
Now I think it is MUCH more likely than the first option (both town) is correct; based on both Freedom's actions and responses and because I don't think Pie would try to save a noob scum team mate.
Again implying I'm scum, with an excuse to fall back on.Looking at my own wagon, I consider the most likely scum to be Pie but I really cannot read him very well. Fuck.
This is not the way to phrase a question if you think the accuser is town.What would you have said if I did vote for GR? Throwing my buddy under the bus? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
More evidence of you slowly turning to a scumread on me.I think there would have been at least 1 scum on my early wagon: imopen2, Stardust, InflatablePie or
Wraith223.
imopen2 and Pie are the most suspect of the two for me; will be re-looking over their posts, as well as GR.
Attempting to discredit me by quoting Stardust, who I've barely interacted with (but have called obvtown for a while now). This one you repeat again in this post.Thread recap:
Zem: I am town
Pie: Zem's scum!
Stardust: Zem's town
Pie: Zem's scum! Better lynch G_R!
This didn't have shit to do with your "because you're scum? that was easy" reply. You've been dropping suspicions on me for pages, ever since I came in and started calling you scum.
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Z is scum. For the love of christ, I will channel the spirit of Fate and rain unholy rage-filled hellfire upon this thread if that's what it takes to convince you guys.
If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know if you're being lied to?
The answer? Use a gun. And if that don't work... use more gun.
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My plans for the Day: I think I'll just re-read the thread tomorrow and try to get a read on everyone, and maybe post a T/S list if I feel strongly enough about my reads. I don't really think I have to say anything, since I'm pretty sure I'm fairly well protected by a perception of me as obvious noobtown by most of the group. I'll leave scum hunting to those that know how to do so effectively, and hopefully learn how to play better myself by analyzing both speakers' parts in the conversation. Good plan/bad plan?
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Bad plan. Find something to do. Pick a player, start looking at their posts. Get a read on them. Read a few pages of content in-context, try and look at reactions between players. Change reads based on that. Also vote z.
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Alright, well I won't be on at all until about 4 PM on the Dtr clock, and I still have to look over pages 5-9 again, which is a lot of reading. I really wish everyone was able to contribute a bit more equally (although this probably could never happen in a game played across multiple timezones and people with varying levels of free time), since it's hard for me to get a read on those running the show right now. I'm sure most of you feel the same way.
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...and?You're funny when your mad.
You're town though.
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If you were joking, why did you want ham to respond to your accusation of him being scum?Lord_McDonald
That still doesn't jive with your statement that outing power roles is beneficial to scum, ultimately there are plenty of reasons why Stardust thought you were lying, speculating on them is pointless and getting him to claim cop is not beneficial
Post 32, pretty much that, I need to read/grok his newer posts to be frank
back to analyzing game state
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I can't vote him twiceHow is no one else not noticing this shit either? I feel like I'm talking to myself here, no one's responded to me except the people I'm frakking arguing with.
I really don't have enough info on G_R to make a determination one way or the other.
Rezombad needs to post more, I feel like he was a lot more active in previous games and I don't have time to check his alignments in those games but I feel like he was most lurky when he was in bioshock mafia when he was scum.
Z, the reason you're the only one i've interrogated is because, other than the "slip" by freedom that had me baffled
for a minute, no one else has done much that registered strongly on my radar. wraith writes weird sentences, LMD, RCW, Ham, G_R, and Rez need to post more, stardust and freedom are town, doc is probably town, pie is leaning town but he's a bit too good at mafia and i've only played one game with him so i don't feel super confident in my read but he has basically been on your wagon with me the whole time and unless he is bussing the shit out of you, i think that is +town points for him.
did i miss anyone?
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btw, i've read through the last couple pages but i'm tired and i don't think i've fully processed them. tomorrow i have work and then i'm having people over. posts from me will be few and far between
Kijin Zabuza: My pokemon cards bring the boys to the yard
Kijin Zabuza: And they're like, "Oh **** he has cards"
TwinBGenerationX: damn right
TwinBGenerationX: I wanna trade cards I could trade you, BUT NOT MY CHARIZARD!
Kijin Zabuza: And they're like, "Oh **** he has cards"
TwinBGenerationX: damn right
TwinBGenerationX: I wanna trade cards I could trade you, BUT NOT MY CHARIZARD!
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On the sorry mess that is ImpotentPie
Verdict: Town. I might not like his methods but I can find Town motivation behind everything that Pie has done. Sure, he has done a hell of a lot of tunneling and misrep of his own; and he is a pain in the ass when he tries to tell me how to play. Thing is, that sort of one mindedness and then frustration is exactly what I would expect from Town hunting Scum VERY seriously. I don't think that scum, on Day 1, would be this vocal or committed; because after you successfully lynch your candidate, you're getting lynched day 2, and that isn't good.
I'll respond to questions for now, I'll be doing more analysis and hunting once the reluctant
contributors finally start doing something.
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What the fuck man.My plans for the Day: I think I'll just re-read the thread tomorrow and try to get a read on everyone, and maybe post a T/S list if I feel strongly enough about my reads. I don't really think I have to say anything, since I'm pretty sure I'm fairly well protected by a perception of me as obvious noobtown by most of the group. I'll leave scum hunting to those that know how to do so effectively, and hopefully learn how to play better myself by analyzing both speakers' parts in the conversation. Good plan/bad plan?
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2 - Nice, modest zem
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4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
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I want to note that imopen also says Pie was on my wagon.I can't vote him twiceHow is no one else not noticing this shit either? I feel like I'm talking to myself here, no one's responded to me except the people I'm frakking arguing with.
I really don't have enough info on G_R to make a determination one way or the other.
Rezombad needs to post more, I feel like he was a lot more active in previous games and I don't have time to check his alignments in those games but I feel like he was most lurky when he was in
bioshock mafia when he was scum.
Z, the reason you're the only one i've interrogated is because, other than the "slip" by freedom that had me baffled for a minute, no one else has done much that registered strongly on my radar. wraith writes weird sentences, LMD, RCW, Ham, G_R, and Rez need to post more, stardust and freedom are town, doc is probably town, pie is leaning town but he's a bit too good at mafia and i've only played one game with him so i don't feel super confident in my read but he has basically been on your wagon with me the whole time and unless he is bussing the shit out of you, i think that is +town points for him.
did i miss anyone?
I actually mostly agree with your reads (they're the same as mine actually). I agree that that level of tunneling is town points. I guess just wait for when some of the others start actually posting.
Thank you for the tell on Rez, I will look into it
further if I have time.
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Your questions have all been answered in response to others previously.If you were joking, why did you want ham to respond to your accusation of him being scum?Lord_McDonald
That still doesn't jive with your statement that outing power roles is beneficial to scum, ultimately there are plenty of reasons why Stardust thought you were lying, speculating on them is pointless and getting him to claim cop is not beneficial
Post 32, pretty much that, I need to read/grok his newer posts to be frank
back to analyzing game state
- Ham responding still gives information and gets him to say
something. You might have noticed how hard it is to get him to say anything.
- Outing Town power roles helps scum because it identifies their NK targets;.
- Thanks for the info on Wraith. I'll give his stuff a re-read. I have him lean town prior to the re-read.
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OH FUCK NO. I'M DONE WITH THIS BULLSHIT.
YOU'RE TRYING TO CALL ME TOWN TO GET ME TO BACK OFF? NOT GONNA WORK SON
[PEDIT] REZZY I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS SHIT
YOU'RE TRYING TO CALL ME TOWN TO GET ME TO BACK OFF? NOT GONNA WORK SON
IMOPEN VOTED YOU. I JOINED YOUR WAGON. DIFFERENT FUCKING INSTANCES. YOUR WAGON FELL APART BEFORE I GOT CAUGHT UP, OBVIOUSLY I COULDN'T JOIN THAT SPECIFIC INSTANCE OF WAGON.You're either lying above or you're lying here. You claimed to be on my wagon before. There was a time when you and imopen were wagoning me. You might not have been on the initial wagon (as listed by you), but you were pushing the wagon. Such deceit!
[PEDIT] REZZY I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS SHIT
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/ yawn. You now admit you're were on my wagon ("specific instance of wagon"). I said I would analyze my wagon, you now say you were on my wagon.
/ rage.
/ rage.
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Post 373 is you attacking pie and then calling him town. You're not even voting anyone but have over 30% of the posts. I stand by my action.
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totes legit vig
[PEDIT] REZZY I DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS SHIT
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when suga confirms you wont be able to say anything at all scumanjawski.Alright, let's leave it until Suga confirms.
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You're the new Tubehunter, congratswhen suga confirms you wont be able to say anything at all scumanjawski.Alright, let's leave it until Suga confirms.
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This is not the post of someone who has lost their shit. Nope. Not at all.*YOUR INITIAL WAGON
YOUR BULLSHIT'S GOTTEN ME FUCKIN UP NOW
[PEDIT] THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOW
[PEDIT2] STAHP POST
[PEDIT3] REZZY I SWEAR TO GOD
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http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=VigilanteWas that seven votes? I'm so lost. As well as breaking my rule of no Mafia on the iPad from bed while I'm trying to wind down.
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thank god. i'm 99% sure that this was the right lynch/kill/whatever for toDay, but if i'm wrong, Z, you should really post some final reads for analysis. you posted one pretty recently but it can't hurt. dayvig is almost always town as we've seen recently. do you think this clears rez for the timebeing?
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TwinBGenerationX: I wanna trade cards I could trade you, BUT NOT MY CHARIZARD!
Kijin Zabuza: And they're like, "Oh **** he has cards"
TwinBGenerationX: damn right
TwinBGenerationX: I wanna trade cards I could trade you, BUT NOT MY CHARIZARD!
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I'm actually Town Doctor. Well done team
The only confirmed town are Stardust and Pie.
I as suspicious of imopen2; Hamfactorial; Freedom. I especially dislike Freedom's refusal to hunt scum. His last post that referred to relying on the illusion of noob town is fucked.
Otherwise people have to post more.
Two daykills in two games as Town. The laffs.
Rez should feel bad.
Pie should feel good, he really ran a good misdirection case.
The only confirmed town are Stardust and Pie.
I as suspicious of imopen2; Hamfactorial; Freedom. I especially dislike Freedom's refusal to hunt scum. His last post that referred to relying on the illusion of noob town is fucked.
Otherwise people have to post more.
Two daykills in two games as Town. The laffs.
Rez should feel bad.
Pie should feel good, he really ran a good misdirection case.
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I think imopen2 was the scum on my wagon. Look for interaction between him and Pie. Don't let them go after Wraith together.
Seriously Rez you owe me a new avatar
Lesson learned, better to lurk and make excuses here
Seriously Rez you owe me a new avatar
Lesson learned, better to lurk and make excuses here
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Z, you say pie is confirmed town but then you say to watch his interactions with me, one of the three people you said are suspicious. what gives?
Kijin Zabuza: My pokemon cards bring the boys to the yard
Kijin Zabuza: And they're like, "Oh **** he has cards"
TwinBGenerationX: damn right
TwinBGenerationX: I wanna trade cards I could trade you, BUT NOT MY CHARIZARD!
Kijin Zabuza: And they're like, "Oh **** he has cards"
TwinBGenerationX: damn right
TwinBGenerationX: I wanna trade cards I could trade you, BUT NOT MY CHARIZARD!
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REZZY IF I'M WRONG AND YOU JUST OUTED AN ACTUAL DOC I SWEAR I WILL REACH THROUGH THE INTERNET AND PUNCH YOU.
Z IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY THE DOC AND DIDN'T NOTICE REZ WAS FUCKING GAMBITING I SWEAR.
GODDAMN THIS FUCKS UP MY READ NOW, FUCKING SHIT.
[PEDIT] FUCK YOU
Z IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY THE DOC AND DIDN'T NOTICE REZ WAS FUCKING GAMBITING I SWEAR.
GODDAMN THIS FUCKS UP MY READ NOW, FUCKING SHIT.
[PEDIT] FUCK YOU
If you don't know how to lie, then how do you know if you're being lied to?
The answer? Use a gun. And if that don't work... use more gun.
The answer? Use a gun. And if that don't work... use more gun.
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