Ragnarok Mafia (Scum Win) Tattered Banners and Bloody Flags

[Kazekirimaru]

Vote: G_R

I'm just going to leave this here.

[InflatablePie]

well, I looked back and apparently everyone thinks GR is scum anyway. so now that we have our lynch, we need a gameplan for tonight. Assuming everyone left is town to eliminate bias (plus if they're scum, it doesn't matter anyway):

- rezzy should target either Stardust or Suga. Suga would help with more info as we'll know his role and he might have a useful night action, Stardust is probably the better townie (from what I saw).
- imopen should not claim his protection, no advantage to that.
- Kaze should not claim if he's using his action, no advantage to that.
- I'm probably using my investigation on rcw or imopen. can confirm rezzy regardless and I don't want to target Kaze in case he's scum that claimed his actual ability.

once we get this together, if there's no need for more discussion, we're good to move forward.

@rez: his reads suck; doesn't make him scum. It's a bit
weird that he has me as a weak scumread while still thinking tube is scum... but I'm just going to chalk it up to him being bad and hope he doesn't fuck up in lylo.

[rcwraspy]

Those plans sound fine except dont expect anything exciting if you investigate a vanilla townie

vote G_R

[imopen2]

rezombad's claim is not worded the same way that mine and kaze's are. ours say "once per" and his say "once during the.." also, his flavor is "afterlife overseer" whereas if it followed the convention of my claim and kaze's it would probably read, "overseer of the afterlife"

obviously this is relying too heavily on flavor gaming etc but in conjunction with the rest of the things I have noticed over the last Day, I am very confident that rez is scum.

GR... I am pretty confident is scum. ability doesn't seem townie, especially considering that it turns my doctor shot and pie's role into a kill shot. doesn't make sense to me from a town perspective. I don't really want to hammer though because I feel that we could still talk about this more. a lot has been said, I feel like someone might have slipped up.

[InflatablePie]

yeah, we have time... I guess as long as we don't end up just talking in circles there's not a rush.

imopen: assuming we're wrong and rezzy ends up being town, who should he try to bring back tonight?

[( G_R )]

Fuck you townies. Way to lose a game.

Well played scum, you bastards.

Vote rezombad

[( G_R )]

rezombad's claim is not worded the same way that mine and kaze's are. ours say "once per" and his say "once during the.." also, his flavor is "afterlife overseer" whereas if it followed the convention of my claim and kaze's it would probably read, "overseer of the afterlife"

obviously this is relying too heavily on flavor gaming etc but in conjunction with the rest of the things I have noticed over the last Day, I am very confident that rez is scum.

GR... I am pretty confident is scum. ability doesn't seem townie, especially considering that it turns my doctor shot and pie's role into a kill shot. doesn't make sense to me from a town perspective. I don't really want to hammer though because I feel that we
could still talk about this more. a lot has been said, I feel like someone might have slipped up.

My PM has Night, capitalized.

[rezombad]

his flavor is "afterlife overseer" whereas if it followed the convention of my claim and kaze's it would probably read, "overseer of the afterlife"

1. zemanjaski - Muninn, Messenger of Odin
5. hamfactorial - Huginn, Messenger of Odin
11. DroppinSuga - Thor, Thunder God
2. Stardust - Baldur, Ragnarok's Harbinger
4. Lord_McDonalds - Fafnir, Hoarding Dragon

[InflatablePie]

yes rezzy that's the playerlist.

who're you "bringing back" tonight? gonna share with the class?

[InflatablePie]

ebwop: well, dead playerlist.

[imopen2]

his flavor is "afterlife overseer" whereas if it followed the convention of my claim and kaze's it would probably read, "overseer of the afterlife"

1. zemanjaski - Muninn, Messenger of Odin
5. hamfactorial - Huginn, Messenger of Odin
11. DroppinSuga - Thor, Thunder God
2. Stardust - Baldur, Ragnarok's Harbinger
4. Lord_McDonalds - Fafnir, Hoarding Dragon

true. the other part tho...your night action does not read the same as ours

[imopen2]

if it's true that the person only comes back for 1 day I would say probably stardust because he can double vote so we could perhaps survive a mislynch today with his extra vote?

[imopen2]

i'm so tired...math hard...let me try tho

[InflatablePie]

we lynch today, it's 4:2 (whether GR flips SK or scum)

assuming the scum kill and rezzy brings Stardust back, it's... still 4:2. 4 to lynch, 3 to no lynch. If Starbuck has a double vote, and votes wrong, it's still game over. if we mislynch without Starbuck... still game over. so I think it's MYLO regardless, except if rezzy claims they stay alive for only one day and one night, it's actually lylo since there'll be two deaths the next night (lynching right, 4:1 plus Stardust dies again plus NK = 2:1).

so even if rezzy can bring someone back, it doesn't change the situation at hand.

[imopen2]

right now it is 4-3 (probably?), mislynch and it's 3-3, NK and it's 2-3 stardust back makes it 3-3 and double vote makes it 4-3 correct? lynch a scum (we've got to hit one at some point right?) and it is 2-2 going to night...actually idk if that is the best choice. it's possible that I would be able to save someone but i'll probably die tonight considering there is no way to keep me alive. perhaps in that case it would be best to bring me back? no that wouldn't help...suga was thor...maybe he has a useful night ability? I guess that's our best shot if we mislynch.

if we lynch scum today, then I would say bringing me back is the best option because I would have a more than 50% chance targeting town with my doc and then a 33% chance of saving the person. if my math is correct that is a 20% chance of a successful doc target if I am brought back into a 3-2 town-scum situation (plus me). thoughts?

[imopen2]

and if the scum don't kill me, I still get my doc shot and rez could bring suga back and hope he has a good ability?

[Kazekirimaru]

My PM has Night, capitalized.

That's nice. Mine has town in blue. We did paraphrase, didn't we?

@Everyone:

This discussion of formatting is fucking stupid, I'm sorry. I don't know about you but if I were feeling extra lazy, I probably would have just claimed "Fenrir unleashed wolf of the van town 1-shot PGO" The way you paraphrase it doesn't matter. It's the claim that matters. Focus. Stop chasing stupid tangents.

Also, lynch GR.

By the way, Imopen, when do you expect rezombad to be able to revive you, exactly? Because if you get NK'd toNight I don't think he'll know that until toMorrow. You know, if he's actually town.

Just bring
back Stardust. He's the most experienced player on the list besides maybe myself. I'd rather have him to help scumhunt with than another PR to go all whackadoo all over the place. Sorry, but this town's play has sucked ass so far(myself included) and I want a good townie back.

[rezombad]

true. the other part tho...your night action does not read the same as ours

I checked and reread, and my pm says 'once during the game at night' as I initially posted.

Good catch, you're confirmation biasing though.

Vote ( G_R )

If gr is some kind of sk, I'll be rereading pie+tube tomorrow.

Still think imopen2 is conftown.
Still think kaze is conftown.

pedit: I have to target someone that is already dead.

[( G_R )]

we lynch today, it's 4:2 (whether GR flips SK or scum)

assuming the scum kill and rezzy brings Stardust back, it's... still 4:2. 4 to lynch, 3 to no lynch. If Starbuck has a double vote, and votes wrong, it's still game over. if we mislynch without Starbuck... still game over. so I think it's MYLO regardless, except if rezzy claims they stay alive for only one day and one night, it's actually lylo since there'll be two deaths the next night (lynching right, 4:1 plus Stardust dies again plus NK = 2:1).

so even if rezzy can bring someone back, it doesn't change the situation at hand.

What's the math if I flip town? Do that. Be prepared. Because I WILL flip town. I'm the lynch today. You asked for content,
yet the reasons I'm being lynched are bullshit. Odin must be scum in this game. That wouldn't be normal, but on Iso it is.

[( G_R )]

"Oh shit, he's town, we fucked up" <-- you guys when N3 begins.

[( G_R )]

I'm sure Kaze is town this game, if I'm wrong then OK, but if he is, he's the dumbest town I've ever played with.

[( G_R )]

There's a reason modgaming is bad, children.

[( G_R )]

Two times in a row, gawddamnit.

[( G_R )]

[InflatablePie]

vote ( G_R )

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[( G_R )]

The math, dude. What's the math if I flip town?

[( G_R )]

I don't think Stardust will be back toMorrow. Hope I'm wrong.

[( G_R )]

If rez is lying did we already lose? I think so. I also think he's lying.

[( G_R )]

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[( G_R )]

I swear, Stardust. Had I been in Yanni's spot before N1, I would never had targeted you.

[( G_R )]

The wild swan's death-hymn took the soul
Of that waste place with joy
Hidden in sorrow: at first to the ear
The warble was low, and full and clear; ...
But anon her awful jubilant voice,
With a music strange and manifold,
Flow’d forth on a carol free and bold;
As when a mighty people rejoice
With shawms, and with cymbals, and harps of gold...

[( G_R )]

Oh, my love, my darling
I've hungered for your touch
A long, lonely time

And time goes by so slowly
And time can do so much
Are you still mine?

I need your love
I need your love
God speed your love to me!

Lonely rivers flow
To the sea, to the sea
To the open arms of the sea

Lonely rivers sigh
"Wait for me, wait for me"
I'll be coming home, wait for me!

Oh, my love, my darling
I've hungered, hungered for your touch
A long, lonely time

And time goes by so slowly
And time can do so much
Are you still mine?

I need your love
I need your love
God speed your love to me!

[( G_R )]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEPmA3USJdI

[TubeHunter]

Ah, I missed getting to vote gr! Damn it.

Seems like nobody is celebrating right now so I think we're good.

Well Rez, it's put up or shut up tonight.

[imopen2]

Yea. I definitely feel like Rez was a sure thing scum and if we did just lynch another town we probably lost but whatever, basically everyone else wanted you dead. Not much to do about that.

Yes, I keep forgetting that his claimed ability is only usable at night. Stardust it is (if we haven't already lost)

[TubeHunter]

I still think both are scum and that we made the right choice, but yeah, if we are actually lynched town, we almost assuredly lost. P

[( G_R )]

It's OK, you can celebrate. No need to wait.

[rcwraspy]

Ah, I missed getting to vote gr! Damn it.

Seems like nobody is celebrating right now so I think we're good.

Well Rez, it's put up or shut up tonight.

What a coincidence. You'll kill Z out of the blue, and hammer LMD, but when it comes to your scumbuddy? You're "late" for the vote.

[( G_R )]

lol