Ragnarok Mafia (Scum Win) Tattered Banners and Bloody Flags

[imopen2]

I did it from memory until the bread crumbling part.

"Amusing that this is... something that I can't talk about."

Wat?

I'll try to address the ham grilling thing tonight.

Off the top of my head you could have been trying to buddy with people by listing them as town or trying to get some of the noobs in this game to sheep you while protecting scum partners (although you've been a top scum candidate most of the game so maybe that wouldn't be on your mind).

[Iso]

Official Votecount:

hamfactorial (6): TubeHunter, rcwraspy, Kazekirimaru, rezombad, Lord_McDonalds, InflatablePie (L-0)
Stardust (1): Yannaria


That is a lynch.

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Just a note that votes will not be counted unless you Unvote first and they are bolded.

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"Odin, my lord! Please! Why do you destroy your servants? We are here only to bring information to you!"

"SILENCE, YOU TRAITOROUS SCUM! You, too, will taste my Gungnir!"

hamfactorial is brutally trampled, beaten, stabbed, etc.

In a last-ditch effort to save himself, hamfactorial turns into a crow and tries to fly away.

"You will not escape!" TubeHunter threw his lance through the air as it arced downward and into hamfactorial, pinning him to the ground.

"M...my lord...the Frost Giants are still out there...be wary...&
quot;

Dead.

hamfactorial has been lynched. He was Huginn, Messenger of Odin.

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It is now Night 1. Night actions are due to me 72 hours from this post. Do not post until the next Day. (This last statement applies to all Nights.)

[Iso]

I'll open Day tomorrow. Sorry for the delay, everyone.

[Iso]

DroppinSuga engaged the Frost Giants next. His hammer struck against their diamond-hard skin, but after hours of swinging, Mjolnir simply couldn't break through. He fell from the sky into a dark pit, Valhalla awaiting him.

DroppinSuga has been killed. He was Thor, Thunder God.

Additionally, Stardust came face-to-face with a giant dragon, his time in Asgard over. Only a charred carcass remained.

Stardust has been killed. He was Baldur, Harbinger of Ragnarok.



Baldur is dead. Ragnarok has begun. The next Night phase will be skipped.



It is now Day 2. With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

[Mcdonalds]

aw snap

[rezombad]

ooh stardust, you so sexy.

I want to finish this neighborhood off.

vote tubehunter

[Kazekirimaru]

Thank goodness we're spared from another 5-day Night phase.

Hmkay. Serious mode. Looks like Stardust's "crazy ability" was that his death made the next nightphase skip. Now, I'm not one for flavorgaming usually, but since I have practically zero knowledge of Norse mythology I've been reading up on it here and there to see if it helps me at all this game. Anyhow, according to the Gylfaginning - it is said that Baldur's(Stardust's Role's) death is what basically starts the ball rolling for the chain of events that lead to Ragnarök. Given this, I think it is safe to assume Stardust's role suicided Night one. This would serve to explain his rather brash behavior Day one, as well as make complete sense flavor-wise.

Thus, I am lead to believe Suga was the nightkill. Who's
up for some NK analysis?

Here's a post of note from Suga yesterDay:

Ham = Town
I'm looking into rezombo heavily tomorrow

Ham = Scum
InflatablePie will be getting my FOS.

Suga didn't make too many clear scum-stances. But this post sounds like the closest thing to it. Suga was going to push rezombad today if ham flipped town(which he did). Now Suga's dead.

It's also worth noting that the two people rezombad focused the most yesterDay were Stardust and ham - both townies.

Vote: rezombad

Let's get this party started!

[Kazekirimaru]

ooh stardust, you so sexy.

I want to finish this neighborhood off.

vote tubehunter

OH FUCKING LOL

Hey, rezombad, remember this post yesterDay?

I'll lynch ham, or stardust. if star isn't scum, I don't know what he's going for.

Tube is towncleared to me. Unless Iso is being a complete ass with this setup.

unvote: stardust
vote: hamfactorial

@pie: If tubehunter is town, we have to be on the same team.

And now you want to "finish off the neighborhood"? Get roped, brah.
This vote is grand.

[rezombad]

Here's a post of note from Suga yesterDay:

Ham = Town
I'm looking into rezombo heavily tomorrow

Ham = Scum
InflatablePie will be getting my FOS.

Suga didn't make too many clear scum-stances. But this post sounds like the closest thing to it. Suga was going to push rezombad today if ham flipped town(which he did). Now Suga's dead.

It's also worth noting that the two people rezombad focused the most yesterDay were Stardust and ham - both townies.

Vote: rezombad

Let's get this party started!

Cmon kaze, this is WIFOM
and you know it. If you want to lynch me at least put forth some effort.
It's also funny that you said he was behaving erratically, but I must be scum because I pushed him.

Also since you're just vomiting the first thing that comes into your head:

Now we come to the weird part. If there is a nightvig in this game, I want you to shoot me. Seriously. You should do it. Even better, save your shot and kill me on some later night. This is not a trap. Killing me will avoid hurting the town. So think about it.

[Kazekirimaru]

Nothing you just said has convinced me you're not scum.

[Kazekirimaru]

Alright, alright. I'll turn it down a bit and be reasonable.

rezombad, why do you want to finish off the neighborhood when yesterDay you said Tube was conftown?

[rezombad]

Because ham flipped town. And that is bothersome.

[Kazekirimaru]

Because ham flipped town. And that is bothersome.

Can you expound a bit for me, please?

Also,

Now we come to the weird part. If there is a nightvig in this game, I want you to shoot me. Seriously. You should do it. Even better, save your shot and kill me on some later night. This is not a trap. Killing me will avoid hurting the town. So think about it.

what exactly are you implying when you bring up this quote?

[rezombad]

Nothing you just said has convinced me you're not scum.

You have several posts yesterday proclaiming me town.
And you come out guns blazing with wifom calling me scum today?

[rezombad]

Because ham flipped town. And that is bothersome.

Can you expound a bit for me, please?

Also,

Now we come to the weird part. If there is a nightvig in this game, I want you to shoot me. Seriously. You should do it. Even better, save your shot and kill me on some later night. This is not a trap. Killing me will avoid hurting the town. So think about it.

what exactly are you implying when you bring up this
quote?

1. Whats to elaborate on?
2. Because you wrote a paragraph about how Stardust had to have suicided, I figured you missed that quote.

[Kazekirimaru]

You have several posts yesterday proclaiming me town.
And you come out guns blazing with wifom calling me scum today?

Reads change.

What do you think the NK indicates?

1. Whats to elaborate on?
2. Because you wrote a paragraph about how Stardust had to have suicided, I figured you missed that quote.

1. Why is ham's townflip bothersome?
2. I did, actually. So you're saying there's likely a nightvig then? What do you think of my analysis of his death?

Work with
me here.

[rezombad]

Having been scum with you in the past, it could indicate that you wanted to use that post of suga's in particular to try to get me mislynched after nightkilling suga.
He also pushed tubehunter really hard.
He also called out pie's hammer.

How is hams townflip not bothersome to you? Why would a 3 person neighborhood have a neighborhood exclusive vig and no scum?

[Kazekirimaru]

Having been scum with you in the past, it could indicate that you wanted to use that post of suga's in particular to try to get me mislynched after nightkilling suga.
He also pushed tubehunter really hard.
He also called out pie's hammer.

How is hams townflip not bothersome to you? Why would a 3 person neighborhood have a neighborhood exclusive vig and no scum?

So you think I'm scum? Why aren't you voting me, then?

What does pushing tubehunter and calling out pie's hammer have to do with things?

And I never said that it didn't bother me. I just...really can't get the idea out of my head that it could be all town. Simply for the fact that Iso made this game. I don't know.

Okay, I'll admit that this points pretty strongly at
TubeHunter. But I feel bad about you, still. My gut is screaming. It may be that you read town all day yesterDay and I'm getting paranoid, but I can't stop feeling the scumvibes. It just makes sense to me.

I need some input from the others.

By the way, RE: WIFOM - I considered the idea that the NK was a frame job and took the analyses one step further. But the only people whom you strongly pressured yesterDay and would possibly want you dead were, again, ham and Stardust. Obviously the idea of them being Scum is out, so that's why I figured this was a straight-forward kill geared towards getting someone out of the way. I mean, the end of Bioshock mafia was pretty straightforward in that regard, and many of the players there are participating in this game. I figured it fit with the sitemeta as well.

[Kazekirimaru]

What does pushing tubehunter and calling out pie's hammer have to do with things?

Ohh. I get you. You're saying that Suga pushing TubeHunter and calling out pie's hammer makes Tube and pie viable culprits by my logic, as well.

The difference here is I'm going by Suga's actual reads.

[rezombad]

You're saying Tubehunter wasn't an actual read of his?

Allow me to case you.

[Kazekirimaru]

You're saying Tubehunter wasn't an actual read of his?

Allow me to case you.

Point me to the post, please.

[rezombad]

The only way I'm moving my vote off TubeHunter is if Stardust's claim doesn't sit well with me. I fail to see why you think he would be so obviously scummy if he was actually scum. It just doesn't make sense.

[Kazekirimaru]

But then he posted this later:

@stardust: I am referring to DroppingSuga. He has 24 posts so far and I would consider 11of them to be contributing, of those 11, 3 of them are gut feelings and a few of them are simply answering other people's direct questions.

Dunno if 11 meaningful posts in under 3 days qualifies as lurking... But yes, of course he could still be scum. I've got a hanging question waiting for his
return, in fact!

Why did you choose to focus on Suga in particular? There were several people noted as town on my list that could be considered questionable. And why the direct comparison to yourself?



Speak of the devil. Suga, you didn't fully answer my questions here. Please do.

My guess is that they're both town. I guess if I had to guess, ham is town and tube would be the lynch target.

So, no.

[rezombad]

He says that tube could still be scum in that post though..

[Kazekirimaru]

My guess is that they're both town. I guess if I had to guess, ham is town and tube would be the lynch target.

Oh, yeah. Suga sounds so intimidating here. If I were scum, I'd shoot the fuck out of this in a heartbeat./sarcasm

Weak.

Why am I letting you distract me, anyway?

The more I'm thinking about it, though, the more I want to lynch TubeHunter.

And the more I back and forth with you, the more I'm starting to feel like you're town again!

Someone help me! I has torn thoughts!

[Mcdonalds]

Not sure what to think of tubehunter, gut says he is town but there is plenty of evidence otherwise

Want to hear more from yanni.

[Yannaria]

tubehunter is pretty near confirmed town in my mind after the daykill
will reread see what I think after that. must do reallife money job and my game moding first

[TubeHunter]

IM having the feeling that one of Rezmo or Kaze is scum.

Rezmo is my gut feeling, but the one thing gnawing on me is that Kaze was much more involved in the proceedings than Suga was, so why kill an ambiguous player such as suga (He wasn't confirmed town by any stretch) when kaze was acting much more town.

More theory than anything, but something im just pondering .

Doing a more fuller read of the game now. I'll try to post something more substantial later.

[imopen2]

IM having the feeling that one of Rezmo or Kaze is scum.

Rezmo is my gut feeling, but the one thing gnawing on me is that Kaze was much more involved in the proceedings than Suga was, so why kill an ambiguous player such as suga (He wasn't confirmed town by any stretch) when kaze was acting much more town.

More theory than anything, but something im just pondering .

Doing a more fuller read of the game now. I'll try to post something more substantial later.

the bolded part is WIFOM but I think it is town-motivated thinking.

I'll

Vote Rezombad

with you, kaze. I agree that rezombad seemed town most of yesterday but the inconsistency you pointed out is strong. LMD looks
possible scum to me as well for this post:

Not sure what to think of tubehunter, gut says he is town but there is plenty of evidence otherwise

Want to hear more from yanni.

feels like a scum fence-sit (tube hunter is probably town but he definitely could be scum )

[Mcdonalds]

I said their was plenty of evidence otherwise, not that he definitely could be scum (any of us could definitely be scum)

Keep trying.

[Kazekirimaru]

I said their was plenty of evidence otherwise, not that he definitely could be scum (any of us could definitely be scum)

Keep trying.

I really fucking hate it when people say this.

It always sounds to me like scum going "neener neener".

Psychobabble tells again.

[imopen2]

I said their was plenty of evidence otherwise, not that he definitely could be scum (any of us could definitely be scum)

Keep trying.

except you, right?

Unvote, Vote LMD

[Mcdonalds]

Well that was easy

[Mcdonalds]

Want to hear from the everyone else before anything else however

[imopen2]

Want to hear from the everyone else before anything else however

No, you can explain yourself right now.

[Mcdonalds]

Nah, got all I needed from you

[Mcdonalds]

Oh fuck it why not

[imopen2]

I'm waiting

[rcwraspy]

Oh fuck it why not

Was there more coming after this?

LMD you're fence-sitting right now, and that's bad.

What's your T/S list right now? How are you reading the rezmo/kaze interaction starting Day2?

[rezombad]

Want to hear from the everyone else before anything else however

6 out of 8 people had posted when you posted this.