[Fedoras of Salvation] - White Knights ITT

[photodyer]

@zeman - Pic of Pip is awesome, good sir!

@Doc - Man...awesome work! Now I wish I'd had time to develop a card last week... But no question, those are outstanding!

@Khaos and WS - Lifted a bit of mead in your honor yesterday in Weston, MO at Pyrtle Winery. Had a very fun date, and we ran onto something at Pyrtle that would set your viking blood afire--hot mulled mead!! I'm not a big mead drinker, but this stuff was AWESOME!!! The mulling spices just made it remarkable, and given that the temp here never got out of the 20's (F) yesterday, it was the perfect drink for the day.

We also hit the storefront for McCormick Distillery, which is the oldest in situ distillery in the US. Awesome samples there as well, including a "hot chocolate" fortified with their 360 Double Chocolate Vodka and Irish Creme.
They called it a "Warm Fuzzy" and that's exactly what it felt like going down. Yum!

BTW WS...we will be serving up some o' that mulled mead at the holiday party, so grab your viking helmet and prepare to pillage!

[Khaospawn]

Photo - I routinely use mulling spices with my mead. Dump the bottle in a pan, on medium heat, drop 2 bags of spices, wait about ten minutes or until it looks like it may boil, remove and pour into a horn or tankard.

So good.

[DocLawless]

...Also, the cards are awesome! Though, now that I'm looking at it, I think NerdBoyWonder's card is extremely op. As in, you win turn 2....

I don't want to be the Balance Police for these, but I'll make an exception for a turn 2 infinite combo.

Is there a Todd Koson in the clan?

At your service

Holy crap, that worked!?!?

Is there a beautiful, well endowed redhead willing to
trade dirty pics in the clan? Anyone?

@Wraith223- That pic reminds me of a time when I was at a friends house... I think I was about 17 at the time... anyway, the gas company showed up to refill his natural gas tank, and he was in the middle of helping his sister move out of the house, so there was a box truck in the driveway. Rather than get out and ask us to move for him dude drove his tank truck, with a full tank no less, into the yard around the moving van and promptly sank up to his fenders. Then he was pissed at us.

@Windstrider - I don't mind at all. That phoenix pic was weirding me out. I downloaded it from some wallpaper site, and the thumbnail for it is of a totally different pic.

@Photodyer- I'll say this in spite of the
inevitable grief I'll get for it... Your nephew did WAAAAY better than I did with that list.

Here's the card updates...

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Took some liberties with a Redthirst card because he's clearly far too hetero for this.

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Alex is the new most broken card in the set.

[DarthStabber]

@Doc: Awesome work! I have been inspired to find my old computer to look for my old designs, trying to remember where I put the damn thing after I moved.


@Raida: The Last Chancers series is pretty good, 13th legion (the first one) is amazing, and the others get progressively worse (the last one is still readable, but stopping after the first one will leave you less disappointed). A basic understanding of WH40K lore helps but isn't needed.

[TubeHunter]

quick question, do any of you guys think that sylvan primordial is a playable card?

[DocLawless]

quick question, do any of you guys think that sylvan primordial is a playable card?

Yeah, in Commander.

[DarthStabber]

If your minimum deck size is 60 you should not be playing sylvan primordial, but, as doc stated, he's a fine dude in commander. Given his wording I think he was printed for commander.

[Kazekirimaru]

:')

That's a damn fine scarf.

[Jack]

I think a large chunk of the rares from gtc were printed for formats other than standard, which is why the set doesn't have many money cards in it.

[Wraith223]

Depends on the format. Standard with devotion to green? maybe-WTF are you thinking.
Commander? Depends on the build with green and generally is awesome in multiplayer games.
Other formats besides sealed/draft; No.

[Kazekirimaru]

Sylvan Primordial was printed for the trade binder.

[LaZerBurn]

Ok Red Bro's, they (not entirely sure who 'they' actually are TBH) say that the first stage in solving a problem is acknowledging that you have one so I thought I would give that approach a try.

My name is Matt 'Lazer' Lazenby aka LaZerBurn and I am a tilter This is not only seriously impeding my progress at MTG but rippling across the rest of my life.

I am hereby publicly announcing my intention to both address and resolve this issue.

Thank you all for being fucking awesome

[Wraith223]

Ok Red Bro's, they (not entirely sure who 'they' actually are TBH) say that the first stage in solving a problem is acknowledging that you have one so I thought I would give that approach a try.

My name is Matt 'Lazer' Lazenby aka LaZerBurn and I am a tilter This is not only seriously impeding my progress at MTG but rippling across the rest of my life.

I am hereby publicly announcing my intention to both address and resolve this issue.

Thank you all for being fucking awesome

Tilter

[rcwraspy]

Ok Red Bro's, they (not entirely sure who 'they' actually are TBH) say that the first stage in solving a problem is acknowledging that you have one so I thought I would give that approach a try.

My name is Matt 'Lazer' Lazenby aka LaZerBurn and I am a tilter This is not only seriously impeding my progress at MTG but rippling across the rest of my life.

I am hereby publicly announcing my intention to both address and resolve this issue.

Thank you all for being fucking awesome

[hamfactorial]

Ok Red Bro's, they (not entirely sure who 'they' actually are TBH) say that the first stage in solving a problem is acknowledging that you have one so I thought I would give that approach a try.

My name is Matt 'Lazer' Lazenby aka LaZerBurn and I am a tilter This is not only seriously impeding my progress at MTG but rippling across the rest of my life.

I am hereby publicly announcing my intention to both address and resolve this issue.

Thank you all for being fucking awesome

Time to start streaming! There's no way to hide from your tiltish ways if
you're being recorded.

[Khaospawn]

Lazer - stop giving a fuck, play what you want to play, do what you want to do, embrace the fact that you're an angry fucker, and then try to focus that anger into something productive - like a Kamehameha Wave or a workout routine. Works for me. I also incorporate beer and mead drinking a few times during the week.

Hope that helps.

[windstrider]

@zeman - Pic of Pip is awesome, good sir!

@Doc - Man...awesome work! Now I wish I'd had time to develop a card last week... But no question, those are outstanding!

@Khaos and WS - Lifted a bit of mead in your honor yesterday in Weston, MO at Pyrtle Winery. Had a very fun date, and we ran onto something at Pyrtle that would set your viking blood afire--hot mulled mead!! I'm not a big mead drinker, but this stuff was AWESOME!!! The mulling spices just made it remarkable, and given that the temp here never got out of the 20's (F) yesterday, it was the perfect drink for the day.

We also hit the storefront for McCormick Distillery, which is the oldest in
situ distillery in the US. Awesome samples there as well, including a "hot chocolate" fortified with their 360 Double Chocolate Vodka and Irish Creme. They called it a "Warm Fuzzy" and that's exactly what it felt like going down. Yum!

BTW WS...we will be serving up some o' that mulled mead at the holiday party, so grab your viking helmet and prepare to pillage!

We'll brainstorm a card for you. No problem.

Oh yeah. All of that sounds awesome. Glad you both had a great time. Weston's a neat little place. We gotta find out when their Irish Fest is next. Good food, good booze, and good music all make for an outstanding time. We'll wear kilts and impress the ladies.

[photodyer]

Yeah, we also saw kilts at the Celtic store in Weston, though not anything as kickass as the ones you have. They did have a bunch of other cool stuff, though...

[windstrider]

How's this for our resident master skald?

Photodyer, Skaldic Master 1[mana]RW[/mana]
Legendary Creature – Human Bard
Haste
Scry 1, then reveal the top card of your library. Photodyer deals damage to target opponent equal to the revealed card's converted mana cost.
Common sense is a mythic ability.
3/2

[Jack]

Went 7-1 tonight with:

[deck]
Creatures
4 Glint Hawk
4 Kor Skyfisher
2 Sanctum Gargoyle

Artifacts
4 Ichor Wellspring
3 Mycosynth Wellspring
4 Prophetic Prism

Spells
2 Faithless Looting
4 Galvanic Blast
4 Journey to Nowhere
4 Kuldotha Rebirth
4 Lightning Bolt
1 Oblivion Ring

Lands
4 Ancient Den
4 Great Furnace
4 Kabira Crossroads
5 Mountain
3 Plains

Sideboard
2 Celestial Purge
3 Electrickery
2 Gorilla Shaman
2 Kor Sanctifiers
2 Lone Missionary
4 Pyroblast
[/deck]

Its fun and very cheap.

I have a few things more to experiment with, noticably guildgates or bouncelands in the mana base and what the
impact of that may be. Still, pretty sweet so far.

I'll second the "fun" part. It's really a blast to play. However, one problem that I've found with the deck is that, once you've got a bunch of mana, you don't really have much to do with it, which makes Mycosynth Wellspring somewhat unimpressive. This deck can often be very slow, yet the cards that deal damage and win games cost 1 and 2 mana. You'll find yourself bouncing Prism or saccing Ichor Wellspring in hopes of finding a simple galv blast. I just feel like there should be something bigger at the top.

[Jack]

Congrats on the 7-1 finish, though. At first, I looked at it and thought "this is the biggest pile of dog shit that he's ever brewed up," then I played with it a bit and saw how that finish might actually be possible.

[hamfactorial]

Mad brewers? We has them.

[Jack]

I keep trying to think of good examples for curve-toppers, but then it strikes me that they're all (extremely underplayed) rares.

[DocLawless]

Ok Red Bro's, they (not entirely sure who 'they' actually are TBH) say that the first stage in solving a problem is acknowledging that you have one so I thought I would give that approach a try.

My name is Matt 'Lazer' Lazenby aka LaZerBurn and I am a tilter This is not only seriously impeding my progress at MTG but rippling across the rest of my life.

I am hereby publicly announcing my intention to both address and resolve this issue.

Thank you all for being fucking awesome

Tilter

No, really, what's a tilter?

[windstrider]

Geez, Doc. That was fast. I likes it a lot.

Edit: He needs a power/thoughness line.

[DocLawless]

[Valdarith]

If only Hammer of Purphoros was a common. Then the Wellspring interaction would be broken. Too bad it's probably too slow for Modern.

[photodyer]

How's this for our resident master skald?

Photodyer, Skaldic Master 1[mana]RW[/mana]
Legendary Creature – Human Bard
Haste
Scry 1, then reveal the top card of your library. Photodyer deals damage to target opponent equal to the revealed card's converted mana cost.
Common sense is a mythic ability.
3/2

Dan, you're awesome...I so wish we could get such a card! Thank you, sir.

You too, Doc; awesome!!

[zemanjaski]

I keep trying to think of good examples for curve-toppers, but then it strikes me that they're all (extremely underplayed) rares.

Yeah, there's basically fireball or Ulamog's Crusher

[Jack]

Gnathosaur?


Yeah, it's probably best if we just gave up on trying to find something.

[windstrider]

How's this for our resident master skald?

Photodyer, Skaldic Master 1[mana]RW[/mana]
Legendary Creature – Human Bard
Haste
Scry 1, then reveal the top card of your library. Photodyer deals damage to target opponent equal to the revealed card's converted mana cost.
Common sense is a mythic ability.
3/2

Dan, you're awesome...I so wish we could get such a card! Thank you, sir.

You too, Doc; awesome!!

I'm glad you like it. Maybe we can mod a couple of these up and try them out in some casual decks.

[Jack]

Have you been finding the same issue, though (not much to do with big mana in the late game)? I haven't played too much with the deck, but when I won off of 1 Kuldotha Rebirth and a few bolts/galv blasts with 8+ lands out, I just thought I was lucky that he couldn't do anything to impact the board that couldn't get killed by a bolt.

[zemanjaski]

Razorfield Rhino?

Atog might just be the easiest. It's another sac. outlet as well.

I do find the same thing; after a while you need to hold two land for Faithless Looting. That helps a lot. Maybe we want three of that effect instead? Looting to discard looting is really nice anyway.

[Jack]

Just adding a few equipment to help speed up our clock once we gain the upper hand might also be a good option. Atog also seems nice, since he allows this deck to occasionally be fairly aggressive in the early game.
What cards do you feel might not be necessary in the deck? My vote goes to Sanctum Gargoyle. If we had other artifact creatures, he might be more powerful, but in the deck as it is now he seems somewhat unimpressive. Lowering the Mycosynth Wellspring count by 1-2 seems alright as well, since they're not so useful after you already have 4 or so mana, which makes it your worst bounce/sac target (aside from the artifact lands).

[zemanjaski]

I wouldn't want less than two Mycosynth; they're amazing in your opener, ok not great after. I like them to fuel Looting later though.

Sanctum Gargoyle is nice as Skyfisher 5-6; that is to say it's kinda sucky. I can see replacing him.

Equipment isn't a bad idea. Bonesplitter?

[Jack]

Bonesplitter was the one I had in mind.

[zemanjaski]

Actually, couplets things just occurred to me:
- worst two cards are Mycosynth no. 3 (often redundant) and Oblivion Ring (overpriced removal).
- Sanctum Gargoyle no. 3 might be ideal as it's another relatively powerful body (for the format) and you greatly increase the chance of Gargoyle >> return Gargoyle, which is the deck's most powerful interaction.
- Atog is nice because I often to draw Kuldotha Rebirth; Atog is similarly aggressive, helps you cantrip, fuels Gargoyle; fights affinity well.
- Lone Missionary in the board should be CoP: Red. You only want those slots for mono red burn, so may as well play a card they can never beat; instead if one they can.

Will test -1 Mycosynth, -1 Oblivion Ring, +2 Atog and +1 Atog, +1 Sanctum Gargoyle.

[zemanjaski]

Atog just randomly kills people in a long enough game, which is nice.

[Khaospawn]

I wish I had a pet Atog.

[zemanjaski]

2 Atog seems perfect actually; though they may fight with Rebirth too much in testing. First Atog is brilliant, second sucks; which is why I liked 1 Atog + 1 Gargoyle (synergy!).

Either seems like a big improvement to the deck.