Void and rezombad? Sure. Glad to see you getting involved, by the way. You're lacking a lot of reads, but I like your thought process on most others.In the meanwhile I'd like to hear your takes on those two guys, if you don't mind.
It probably is. I'd give Pride a 90% chance of being town. Just cautioning you against making the same mistake you did before.I don't want to have to re-read Pride to double check things. I like it when my reads are
solid.
Lots of null reads. A few new reads. Plenty of original content which shows he actually put his own work into it. I like it, overall. The only person he really fence-sat on was imopen.I skimmed Red's T/S list. Someone tell me about it. I'm tired.
I phrased that incorrectly. He voted without adding or intending to add anything. Which is not pro-town.uh... what?your vote on iso didn't add anything to the game.
Because I wanted to know what Iso thought of your vote.
@rezombad:
- Why did you appeal to Iso in particular regarding my play in post 39?
- Why in the world would you think "speak now" claims would be beneficial to the town?
- What was the main reason
for jumping on my wagon, exactly?
Because Kaze looked scummy and I wanted to know what Iso thought, as the wagon was on him.Why did you ask Iso that question so early on?@Iso: Does Kaze look scummy to you right now?
@Wheat Grinder, Void, CM: How do you feel about a speak now nameclaim?
Why
did you think speak now would make a name claim a good idea?
So, what you're saying is, you're not voting for people for acting scummy, you're voting arbitrarily?i was never considering whether i thought you were scummy or not, because voting a wagon for no reason is a scum move in my book, i was waiting to consider your answer to my question, and i did, and i voted as a result.
Disregarding the admittedly completely random vote in the beginning?He's competent and his analysis seems legit.@Iso:
- Why do you like Cursed_Pride?
So, I should just ignore anything that I think is scummy if it's directed at me because that would be self-conscious and therefore scummy?rezombad. Didn't like his first post questioning someone's RVS vote on him. Self-conscious.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
Uh, no, of course not. What was scummy about this post?So, I should just ignore anything that I think is scummy if it's directed at me because that would be self-conscious and therefore scummy?rezombad. Didn't like his first post questioning someone's RVS vote on him. Self-conscious.
ActualUh, no, of course not. What was scummy about this post?So, I should just ignore anything that I think is scummy if it's directed at me because that would be self-conscious and therefore scummy?rezombad. Didn't like his first post questioning someone's RVS vote on him. Self-conscious.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
ActualUh, no, of course not. What was scummy about this post?So, I should just ignore anything that I think is scummy if it's directed at me because that would be self-conscious and therefore scummy?rezombad. Didn't like his first post questioning someone's RVS vote on him. Self-conscious.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
Could you restate the question you wanted my opinion on? I must have missed it.I think I've tried my best to avoid reads based on my likings of the subject's playstyle (ref: Stardust), but Void's behaviour strikes me bad on multiple levels.- Why is Void scum, exactly? It sounds like you just don't like his playstyle. Is that alignment indicative?
I've also tried to ask you an opinion on the matter in a previous post (without explicitly saying his name, though), if I remember correctly.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
"#swag" is an obvious reason? "/in before stardust" is an obvious reason? It's called the random voting stage. People vote at random.There are obvious reasons for those RVS votes.
I don't even know what this means. Going to Boondocks now to check your reaction to pressure there. This is weird.I didn't notice that you don't find votes with no explanation scummy.
unvote
vote: stardust
I was referring to this post:I think I've tried my best to avoid reads based on my likings of the subject's playstyle (ref: Stardust), but Void's behaviour strikes me bad on multiple levels.- Why is Void scum, exactly? It sounds like you just don't like his playstyle. Is that alignment indicative?
I've also tried to ask you an opinion on the matter in a previous post (without explicitly saying his name, though), if I remember correctly.[/
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Could you restate the question you wanted my opinion on? I must have missed it.
I'd like to clarify that with "active" I meant something more like "aggressive" than "posting often".I was wondering... you're quite experienced at this mafia-thing here, and we pretty much know each other since forever and shit, so I think I can ask you this question without being misunderstood:Sup, lurker?Welcome Tubehunter, tell us something.
I'll never be able to be as aggressive as you have been in other games, yet I find very
difficult to call people scum without having good reads on them because, you know, I just feel bad.
I guess that's not a good thing, because it prevents me from contributing.
At the same time, I see people being very active without ever following up with any *real* content, except some "will post later" here and there - what's your opinion on that?
I direct your attention to pornstar mafia:@rezombad: I didn't have an issue with it because he didn't indicate at all that he was using some sort of vote-deciding mechanic to make his random vote, as opposed to rolling a die or using random.org to do it, for example.
I wanted to put some pressure on him. And got colon-rupturing OMGUS in response.Explain to me exactly why you're after Stardust now, rezombad.
You post on dtr? Cool? Honestly, I don't know who posts there and who doesn't.
I actually read that site quite a bit but its mostly because a lot of the people I used to interact with on MTGS are over there.
It should be a privilege to post here
I haven't done my full reread yet and I probably won't be able to till at least Friday but I read their back and forth over. I think it is town v. town...Bah. I hadn't rezombad nor Stardust on my scumdar before this him v. him thing sprouted up.
Why do you guys have to do this to me? D:
@Everyone but Stardust and rezombad: Does the aforementioned exchange sound like Town v. Town, Town v. Scum, or Scumbussing and why?
You think Stardust's case is weak but rezombad is the scum...?I haven't done my full reread yet and I probably won't be able to till at least Friday but I read their back and forth over. I think it is town v. town...
I liked stardust's case on slowpoke a lot and I think he is my most confirmed townie so far, but I don't like his case on rezombad as much. a lot of meta analysis on someone who is only in their third or fourth game, i'm not sure if it is as accurate as when applied to a player with more history. his absences, for example, could be just RL related. If their is scum between them it is rezombad, no question.
no that's not what i said. i think they are both town. but if i were wrong, rezombad is the scum, not stardust.YouI haven't done my full reread yet and I probably won't be able to till at least Friday but I read their back and forth over. I think it is town v. town...
I liked stardust's case on slowpoke a lot and I think he is my most confirmed townie so far, but I don't like his case on rezombad as much. a lot of meta analysis on someone who is only in their third or fourth game, i'm not sure if it is as accurate as when applied to a player with more history. his absences, for example, could be just RL related. If their is scum between them it is rezombad, no question.
think Stardust's case is weak but rezombad is the scum...?
you asked a question: is stardust vs. rezombad a town v. town, town v. scum, or scum v. scum exchange? like i said, stardust is town but might be grasping in his case against rezombad, and i think rezombad is town as well. that means it is town v. town. IF, there were a scum among the two, it would be rezombad because just cause stardust's case is weak, imo, doesn't mean it is wrong. i think rezombad is much more likely scum than stardust is. does that make sense?Okay. So why rezombad if Stardust's case is so weak against him?
Oh hey! You're doing that thing again! Where you just recap everything someone has done instead of really thinking about it.After voting for Iso (which is all well and good), he asks slowpoke if he had put the third vote on iso as a joke (it was the fourth), then completely ignores kaze voting iso for no reason, even replying with half-assed support for a name-claim* calls slowpoke overly defensive for responding to a question I asked almost exactly the same as Stardust himself responded.
At this point Kaze is probably town-aligned to me, just because Stardust, my #2 Scumspect has so deliberately avoided more than cursory contact with him.
It was a bit rushed, yes. I also didn't want to introduce my own bias since meta is a dangerous thing to work with. Letting people draw their own conclusions is better for stuff like this.*'Meta Check' post:
This is why my vote is going to be on Stardust for most of the day probably, the OMGUS and slandering is so hard here I think I have cancer now.
Context is a very huge part of this game, and Stardust very deliberately misuses the context of the quotes in order to slander me.
I have to make a lot of assumptions in order to address this alleged meta check of me because stardust doesn't actually draw any conclusions.
What you did in Boondocks is completely different than what Cursed Pride did here. You didn't say before that your issue was with naked votes, you said it was with random votes. Anyway, how isI am assuming that the "familiar looking posts" are to be compared to my first post where I asked CP why when he random voted in his first post.
I explained earlier that I would have asked the question regardless of who CP placed his vote for, because naked RVS votes are scummy to me. I did it in boondocks, and the games that I have seen it in have had scum doing it.
That said, I was going to pressure him more but after Iso did his thing (that has since been edited by a mod or admin, which I wholly disapprove of, especially if someone were to replace in and not see the original post) I wanted to put some pressure over to Iso and see who was quick to wagon.
Wait a sec. Are you defending your actions in your scum game? I already know why you asked the questions in that game - you were concerned that there was pressure being put on you. Most scum are. My point here is that you didn't do this at all in your town game, and now you're back to doing it here.The first quoted post is my 6th post in any mafia game ever and I wanted to understand why I was being voted.
The second, Yanni came out of nowhere saying he'd be willing to lynch me, it was fitting to ask if there was a case against me beyond what had already been established.
Yep, could be true. Or could be that you find it harder to post as scum, so you don't find the time. I've seen it before. It's definitely not null when there's a pattern of behaviour.I notice a couple gaps in your play in this game too, but that doesn't make you scum to me.
As someone who has a life and a demanding job with very long and sometimes strange hours, I participate as much as I can. It's null at best. And if I weren't in another game (that I just caught up on) I'd say I was flavorgaming.
"I don't think" therefore "Stardust deliberately misinterpreted" doesn't flow. You're reaching.-- "But I don't want to try
to out-Iso Iso" doesn't really make sense coming from a townie. rezombad never showed this uncertainty in Bioshock.
Iso wasn't in bioshock, and I dont think what I did was uncertain at all so again we have Stardust deliberately misinterpreting the situation.
I didn't know what was happening so I grabbed the bull by the horns and pushed my own scumhunting agenda.
What does an external source have to do with you talking to Kaze? If he's scum, you call him scum, not "not pro town".-- "Do you honestly think your posts have been pro town?" is a really weak language choice.
-- More of the same.
It seems weak but it was actually in reference to the 'supplemental reading' that kaze linked that you apparently missed in your reread.
Things have been shifting a bit, so I'd have to rethink to make sure this is the right answer, but I'm liking a Slowpoke, Captain, rezombad scum team at the moment. The rezombad/Slowpoke pairing makes a lot of sense given Slowpoke's jump onto Iso following what he thought was a scum slip you caught.@Stardust Who is your third scum suspect?
This is concerning me. You played with me in KNM. You know I'm capable of putting forward a good case as scum. Why do you think I'm town?I liked stardust's case on slowpoke a lot and I think he is my most confirmed townie so far...
Town v. Scum, where rezombad is scum and Stardust is town.Bah. I hadn't rezombad nor Stardust on my scumdar before this him v. him thing sprouted up.
Why do you guys have to do this to me? D:
@Everyone but Stardust and rezombad: Does the aforementioned exchange sound like Town v. Town, Town v. Scum, or Scumbussing and why?
Last time you mentioned rezombad was in this post, a week ago, where you said he might be town. Did you check his meta? What's your reasoning here?Can we kill Rezombad yet?
Please?
I don't like rezombad answers at all, it seems like we've got some scum panicking here.@Everyone but Stardust and rezombad: Does the aforementioned exchange sound like Town v. Town, Town v. Scum, or Scumbussing and why?
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