Bioshock Mafia (Town Win)

[imopen2]

Of the 5 votes on witchhunter, this is the one I don't like

Unvote: RedNihilist
Vote: WitchHunt

I like this wagon.

Choo choo, motherfucker.

Vote Kaze

[rezombad]

Are you going to answer my question; What did Scumbag's explanation tell you? What bearing did it have on your vote for Witchhunt?

reiteration, scum.

[( G_R )]

Of the 5 votes on witchhunter, this is the one I don't like

Unvote: RedNihilist
Vote: WitchHunt

I like this wagon.

Choo choo, motherfucker.

Vote Kaze

What you no like about it?

[Captain Murphy]

I want more content from you imopen, all you have done it /barn a bunch and in fact I sense a budding up to me with the few agressive posts you have made

[Captain Murphy]

the only person I feel comfortable with so far is rezombad and GR a little. A lot of people are suspicious or not posting enough

[Captain Murphy]

Although, kaze did place the third vote (which is a scummy thing generally) with no reasoning

[Captain Murphy]

Also, when we get close to an agreeable lynch target we need to discuss other target options for a vig if there is one in this game, considering all 12 players have an ability and kpaca isn't playing in this game

[imopen2]

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=120694#p120694:121v7r1w]rezombad » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:55 am[/url:121v7r1w]":121v7r1w][quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=119405#p119405:121v7r1w]rezombad » Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:20 pm[/url:121v7r1w]":121v7r1w]
Are you going to answer my question; What did Scumbag's explanation tell you? What bearing did it have on your vote for Witchhunt?
[/quote:121v7r1w]

reiteration, scum.[/quote:121v7r1w]

Scumbag's explanation told me he should have just unvoted but voted no lynch instead because he was "in a hurry." this doesn't make sense but it's not worth a vote. witchhunt got my vote after i read his posts and felt that he had played mafia before (apparently i was wrong) based on his discussion of RVS etc without first asking what that was (like most other new players i've played with so
far), but still made a false dichotomy in one of his posts and was defensive in another. i believe his claim tho and will not be lynching him today.


[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=120699#p120699:121v7r1w]( G_R ) » Wed Oct 09, 2013 4:03 am[/url:121v7r1w]":121v7r1w][quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=120688#p120688:121v7r1w]imopen2 » Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:38 pm[/url:121v7r1w]":121v7r1w]Of the 5 votes on witchhunter, this is the one I don't like

[quote="[url=viewtopic.php?p=119393#p119393:121v7r1w]Kazekirimaru » Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:59 pm[/url:121v7r1w]":121v7r1w][b:121v7r1w]Unvote: RedNihilist
Vote: WitchHunt[/b:121v7r1w]

I like this wagon.

Choo choo, motherfucker.[/quote:121v7r1w]

[b:121v7r1w]Vote Kaze[/b:121v7r1w][/quote:121v7r1w]
What you no like about it?[/quote:121v7r1w]

Third vote, no reasoning.

[( G_R )]

Dejà vu

Vote: imopen2

[Captain Murphy]

This is interesting. imopen just /barns again and is coming across as incredibly scummy but for some reason I feel that there is no connection between imopen and kaze.

Got my eye on you

[Captain Murphy]

@tubehunter and lord mcdonalds please tell me your opinions of the current game state. Who is coming across as scummy, who is coming across as townie and what wagons would you support?

[Mcdonalds]

Kaze seems like a good start

Will have more when after the part of the day wherein I discuss things with human beings

[Kazekirimaru]

Claim feels legit

Unvote: WitchHunt

But I do care about witch's post, because there is 3 scum and they all have to interact with each other in this game.

There is something untownie about ending it the way you did. And I never said you were too townie, I said the wording of "Town would do this" is extreme scum.

And why all the hostility towards me? A single player who voted you and prodded you? Are you scared to be put at L-6?

Why do you find witch scummy if I'm such an idiot at figuring it out?

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SCUM THERE ARE

Vote: Captain Murphy

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PS I don't give a fuck what you plebes think about my former
WitchHunt vote. Get blown. <3

[Kazekirimaru]

Actually never mind.

Of the 5 votes on witchhunter, this is the one I don't like

Unvote: RedNihilist
Vote: WitchHunt

I like this wagon.

Choo choo, motherfucker.

Vote Kaze

This is super obvious opportunistic wagon-hopping.

Unvote: Captain Murphy
Vote: imopen2

[Yannaria]

those imopen posts unvote voteimopen2

[Yannaria]

Also, when we get close to an agreeable lynch target we need to discuss other target options for a vig if there is one in this game, considering all 12 players have an ability and kpaca isn't playing in this game

this isn't an awful idea

[Kazekirimaru]

This is interesting. imopen just /barns again and is coming across as incredibly scummy but for some reason I feel that there is no connection between imopen and kaze.

That's because I'm not scum you derp.

[Captain Murphy]

Claim feels legit

Unvote: WitchHunt

But I do care about witch's post, because there is 3 scum and they all have to interact with each other in this game.

There is something untownie about ending it the way you did. And I never said you were too townie, I said the wording of "Town would do this" is extreme scum.

And why all the hostility towards me? A single player who voted you and prodded you? Are you scared to be put at L-6?

Why do you find witch scummy if I'm such an idiot at figuring it out?[/quote:
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HOW THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SCUM THERE ARE

Vote: Captain Murphy

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PS I don't give a fuck what you plebes think about my former WitchHunt vote. Get blown. <3

Every 12 player game I've played had 3 scum, its the same formula because with 4 or 2 it makes it unfair one way or another. How many games have you played before?

This is interesting. imopen just /barns again and is coming across as incredibly scummy but for some reason I feel that there is no connection between imopen and kaze.

That's because I'm not scum you derp.

Its not about that, its the point
that imopen agreed with me about you being scummy and that means 2 things if he was scum:

1. He was busing you
2. He tried to look townie and jump on a wagon easily

The reason I have an issue with the no current connection between you two is that #2 seems unlikely considering there was easier wagons to get on at that time. That leaves me to ponder about the possibility of it being a noob move but that could be a noob scum or a noob town move. So thats the predicament I'm in. On top of that I don't want to push imopen to a claim because I'm worried we will have another townie claim in a game full of abilities and that can hurt us with the night kill.

Please answer all my previous questions before this post also, you derp.

[Captain Murphy]

But I do find it hilarious that all you've done for the past couple of posts is act overly defensive to a single vote and a single player calling you scum to the point that you have to call me names and on top of that you OMGUS me and then /barn a wagon that is taking off.

And I'm scum? lol

[Captain Murphy]

Also, when we get close to an agreeable lynch target we need to discuss other target options for a vig if there is one in this game, considering all 12 players have an ability and kpaca isn't playing in this game

this isn't an awful idea

We should discuss the few best options for witch to target too

[Captain Murphy]

Kaze seems like a good start

Will have more when after the part of the day wherein I discuss things with human beings

WHY?

[imopen2]

It seems to me that people in mafia see one vote as a wagon, and agreement as /barning. If someone votes with you, but for a different reason (one that captain decided to post before I could respond and therefore nath'd me), that's a little more credible than the guy who was the THIRD vote on a wagon and gave no fucking reasoning whatsoever.

You like trains, kaze? Choo choo <3

[rezombad]

Cm voted kaze for a completely difderent reason than you did, scum.

[( G_R )]

Second time you call him that, noted.

[rezombad]

Im going to keep calling him it too. Because he's scum.

[imopen2]

Cm voted kaze for a completely difderent reason than you did, scum.

That was the point of my post...

I voted kaze for a different reason than CM.
People are saying I am barning CM, I disagree.
CM nath'd my reasoning, it was still different from his original thoughts on kaze.

[rezombad]

Instead of waiting for CM to 'nath' you, why didnt you explain your vote for Kaze when you placed it?

[Kazekirimaru]

@Captain:

- That doesn't mean this particular 12 player has 3 scum. I've stated my experience earlier, if you care to look. And I've played 12/13 player games with 2 scum before, albeit the scum roles were both godfathers. Yet you said with certainty there are 3 scum. That's what got me.

- Aggression is my playstyle. It's not alignment indicative. I do what I fucking want.

Here's some meta btw

Kaze as scum:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29631

Kaze as town:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ser_select (replaced in page 13)

There's plenty more meta over there, too.

Your other questions...?
I think I answered your hostility one.

Why did I
find Witch scummy? Is that your question? Or are you asking me why I voted him? Those are two different things.

I naked voted WitchHunt as a reaction test. I did it to bait a possible scum flail, as well as pressure the wagon. I still half-think I got one from Rezombad in the form of a Chainsaw defense, but I'm putting them on the backburner for now. I'm getting town vibes from Rezombad since then.

[Kazekirimaru]

Votecount, please.

[Kazekirimaru]

I'm having a hard time keeping track of the votes myself. >.>

[imopen2]

Instead of waiting for CM to 'nath' you, why didnt you explain your vote for Kaze when you placed it?

Sometimes less is more. I wanted to see Kaze's reaction before i gave him my reasoning. He has retaliated with a vote on me. His reasoning is crap and the hypocrisy is humorous. He even quotes his own opportunistic wagon jump while calling my vote on him obvious opportunism.

Am I the only one who sees this?

[WitchHunt]

While there seems to be a pretty heated debate between imopen2 and Kaze, has anyone else notice Yannaria is by far one of the most passive players in this game? He hasn't explained any of his votes, and he's had maybe one post that's a complete sentence. His votes are just jumping from one person to another.

[Kazekirimaru]

Instead of waiting for CM to 'nath' you, why didnt you explain your vote for Kaze when you placed it?

Sometimes less is more. I wanted to see Kaze's reaction before i gave him my reasoning. He has retaliated with a vote on me. His reasoning is crap and the hypocrisy is humorous. He even quotes his own opportunistic wagon jump while calling my vote on him obvious opportunism.

Am I the only one who sees this?

Yes. Now please hang. Discrediting ad nauseam is also a scumtell.

You're either scum or just terrible.

While there seems to be a pretty heated debate between imopen2 and Kaze, has anyone else notice Yannaria is by far one of the most passive players in this game? He hasn't explained any of his votes, and he's had maybe one post that's a complete sentence. His votes are just jumping from one person to another.

I've chosen to leave him for now. As far as I know, that's just how he plays regardless of alignment.

[imopen2]

While there seems to be a pretty heated debate between imopen2 and Kaze, has anyone else notice Yannaria is by far one of the most passive players in this game? He hasn't explained any of his votes, and he's had maybe one post that's a complete sentence. His votes are just jumping from one person to another.

Yup. I had a post written about it this morning but decided to focus on kaze and let yanni play out. At least he pointed out something he didn't like about your posts before he voted you. He has an obnoxious mafia playstyle that has gotten him lynched early in both games I played with him but I don't think it's a great tell on him.

[imopen2]

Instead of waiting for CM to 'nath' you, why didnt you explain your vote for Kaze when you placed it?

Sometimes less is more. I wanted to see Kaze's reaction before i gave him my reasoning. He has retaliated with a vote on me. His reasoning is crap and the hypocrisy is humorous. He even quotes his own opportunistic wagon jump while calling my vote on him obvious opportunism.

Am I the only one who sees this?

nYes. Now please hang. Discrediting ad nauseam is also a scumtell.

You're either scum or just terrible.

While there seems to be a pretty heated debate between imopen2 and Kaze, has anyone else notice Yannaria is by far one of the most passive players in this game? He hasn't explained any of his votes, and he's had maybe one post that's a complete sentence. His votes are just jumping from one person to another.

I've chosen to leave him for now. As far as I know, that's just how he plays regardless of alignment.

Oh kaze, didn't know you spoke for everyone.

Also, nice false dichotomy there.

[Kazekirimaru]

That's not a false dichotomy as there is 0% chance you are anything other than a scum or a scrub. <3

Did you actually attempt to paint my berating comment towards as a scumtell? Fucking hilarious.


As much as I love jeering at ridiculous scum I have to go make dinner. Lamb sounds pretty good.

[( G_R )]

He's implying he could be both. GR call slip. Carry on, wagon.

[imopen2]

There is literally nothing terrible about what I've said. I pointed out your naked vote as being opportunistic and you flailed back at me for the same thing. Since my vote for you was not opportunistic or unreasoned, you look rather hypocritical in your assessments.

Throw as many <3's into your posts as you'd like, but if you lynch me you will regret it.


Your frustration is showing, enjoy your lamb. <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

[Second Harkius]

Vote Count #2 -

Kazekirimaru (2) – Captain_Murphy, imopen2
imopen2 (4) – rezombad, G_R, Kazekirimaru, Yannaria
RedNihilist (2) – Tubehunter, WitchHunt
No lynch (1) – Colonel_Khaddafi

Not voting: Lord_McDonalds, DroppinSuga, RedNihilist

Please let me know if anyone needs a prod.

[DroppinSuga]

I'm not sure I like the reasoning for the Imopen wagaon. Kaze is a bit vicious with his attack and the rest of you are choo chooing this mofucka. At this point, I know I'm not comfortable placing my vote on Imopen.

At this point I'm going to vote yanni because he jumps in with one post and jumps on a wagon with no other reasoning. I fail to see how that looks like town motivation at all.