Zemanjaski on Sligh (lists, theory, video)
Moderators: Kaitscralt, zemanjaski, Christen
- zemanjaski
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 11348
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:26 am
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
Mizzium Mortars / Act of Treason are better in my opinion. The reason for this is that your need to kill your opponent quickly in these matchups; so you still need your 1 drops; Mortars and Act supplement your aggro plan very proactively.
Note that I'm not taking about GW aggro here, but instead decks like Naya or GR ramp.
Note that I'm not taking about GW aggro here, but instead decks like Naya or GR ramp.
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
Bona fide hustler making my name
- Khaospawn
- Khaospawn's beautiful and unique title
- Posts: 9529
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:55 pm
- Location: Largo, Florida
- zemanjaski
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 11348
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:26 am
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
- Yarpus
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 1270
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:11 pm
There was PyroRed at some kind of tournament (Standard Platinum TCQ). It had third place (first place? Mono White Weenie!) and basically it was PyroRed with Firefist Strikers and Chandras, but no Hammers and Fanatics.
I actually believe Firefist Strikers might be pretty damn important. Mostly because of Devotion Red as they have two walls that stop us really well - Frostburn Weird and Boros Reckoner.
This guy also played 3 Anger of the Gods in SB. I am still not sure what to think about it. Why not Flames of the Firebrand?
I actually believe Firefist Strikers might be pretty damn important. Mostly because of Devotion Red as they have two walls that stop us really well - Frostburn Weird and Boros Reckoner.
This guy also played 3 Anger of the Gods in SB. I am still not sure what to think about it. Why not Flames of the Firebrand?
- zemanjaski
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 11348
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:26 am
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
Because people are dumb. You can't get enough of your own creatures out of the 60 to make Anger ok.
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
Bona fide hustler making my name
-
- Newcomer
- Posts: 32
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:07 pm
Hey Zem, I listened to the chat you and alex had. Good stuff man, I learned quite a bit. One point confused me a bit tho. You said that you think BTE is "actively bad". When you talked about it, you brought up the fact that last season BTE wasn't the reason to splash green (boar and rampager were) and while i agree with this, what about mono red? Do you think it is also bad in mono red currently? Or do you mean using the green mana from BTE to "force" a R/G aggro deck is a bad idea currently?
- zemanjaski
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 11348
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:26 am
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
Yeah I don't think BTE + Rampager is enough to go RG; Flinthoof Boar added enough (in addition to the other two) to make RG good. I don't like RG at all now.
BTE is valid in Mono Red, but I'm not a BTE guy.
BTE is valid in Mono Red, but I'm not a BTE guy.
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
Bona fide hustler making my name
- Alex
- Not Even MAD
- Posts: 4236
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:50 pm
There isn't anything worth casting off of Burning-Tree anymore. Flinthoof Boar was an insane card, there's nothing that good in the format right now.Hey Zem, I listened to the chat you and alex had. Good stuff man, I learned quite a bit. One point confused me a bit tho. You said that you think BTE is "actively bad". When you talked about it, you brought up the fact that last season BTE wasn't the reason to splash green (boar and rampager were) and while i agree with this, what about mono red? Do you think it is also bad in mono red currently? Or do you mean using the green mana from BTE to "force" a R/G aggro deck is a bad idea currently?
The question you should be asking yourself when considering Byrning-Tree Emissary isn't &
quot;what can I cast" but rather "how good is the thing I'm going to cast?" Because Firefist Striker and Gore-House Chainwalker aren't going to cut it.
- Helios
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 2143
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:24 am
- Location: Oxford Town
- Platypus
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 1448
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:30 pm
I have to agree on BTE. BTEs into Flinthoof Boar was really sweet. BTEs into Lightning Mauler was really sweet as well. Heck, BTEs into Rancor on your 1-drop was pretty ok. That's three reasons why BTE isn't so interesting right now. GHC or Firefist Striker just doesn't compare, and what else is there to chain into? Nothing worth even considering.
Sig by NBW
- Platypus
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 1448
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:30 pm
-
- Newcomer
- Posts: 32
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Mon Sep 16, 2013 6:07 pm
THIS..............this...........makes really good sense to me lol. ThanxThere isn't anything worth casting off of Burning-Tree anymore. Flinthoof Boar was anHey Zem, I listened to the chat you and alex had. Good stuff man, I learned quite a bit. One point confused me a bit tho. You said that you think BTE is "actively bad". When you talked about it, you brought up the fact that last season BTE wasn't the reason to splash green (boar and rampager were) and while i agree with this, what about mono red? Do you think it is also bad in mono red currently? Or do you mean using the green mana from BTE to "force" a R/G aggro deck is a bad idea currently?
insane card, there's nothing that good in the format right now.
The question you should be asking yourself when considering Byrning-Tree Emissary isn't "what can I cast" but rather "how good is the thing I'm going to cast?" Because Firefist Striker and Gore-House Chainwalker aren't going to cut it.
- zemanjaski
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 11348
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:26 am
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
Cards acquired, might be able to stream tomorrow if I don't have dinner plans with pip's parents.
Everyone's a winner, we're making our fame,1 - Drunk, surly zem
2 - Nice, modest zem
3 - Bragpost zem
4 - Confident and funny zem
5 - Condescending jerk zem
6 - Self-aware zem
Bona fide hustler making my name
- Alex
- Not Even MAD
- Posts: 4236
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:50 pm
- zemanjaski
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 11348
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:26 am
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
- zemanjaski
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 11348
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:26 am
- Location: Melbourne, Australia
- Contact:
- Link
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 1993
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 7:40 pm
the problem I had against RBW midrange was I couldnt act of treason for lethal when he played his first demon, or get enough of a board precense to be able to steal a reckoner/2nd demon/ w/e to steal, sac and have lethal. So if I tried to steala demon hed just sac a guy and crack back for lethal because demons fucking hurt
Is the correct play to just act a lone demon for nonlethal damage sometimes?
Is the correct play to just act a lone demon for nonlethal damage sometimes?
-
- Newcomer
- Posts: 26
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:53 am
I mean I don't have nearly the experience with this kind of deck as you but it's gotta be right? I mean you're stealing spending 3 mana to do at least 6 damage.the problem I had against RBW midrange was I couldnt act of treason for lethal when he played his first demon, or get enough of a board precense to be able to steal a reckoner/2nd demon/ w/e to steal, sac and have lethal. So if I tried to steala demon hed just sac a guy and crack back for lethal because demons fucking hurt
Is the correct play to just act a lone demon for nonlethal damage sometimes?
- Christen
- Tire Aficionado
- Posts: 736
(View: POSTS_VIEWTOPIC /POSTS_VIEWTOPIC_INTO) - Joined: Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:56 am
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests