Dies to Removal

Rhyno

Do you guys think VMA packs will go up or down? They're piling up from Cube and I'm never going to draft with them.

Rhyno

Went undefeated at Game Day today (glorified weekly with Top 8 ), deck ran great. Was even less happy with Deflecting Palm, will probably cut it for something more consistent. Arc Lightning has been pretty stinky too, I would much rather be casting a Crackling Doom. I think you guys are insane runni...

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If I'm siding in answers I want them to be able to hit Whip/Bow as well as the other stuff I need to deal with. That basically leaves Erase and Banishing Light, meaning I'm also probably on 2 Banishing Lights. I also ran Wear//Tear consistently the entire season and loved it the whole time. Also the...

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Rabblemaster has "taken over" maybe 2% of my games. You realize a jeskai list just top 8 the PT without rabble right? First of all, that's a different deck, second, two of them did have rabble. Also I flat out don't believe that Rabblemaster only took over 2% of your games if you were pla...

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Every creature in the deck is easily removed unless you bump your curve higher. Rabblemaster can take the game over by itself and gets removed often because it's a must answer threat.

I remember when people were arguing that Pyromancer was bad because it just dies.

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Also Rabblemaster is still really good. I will not be cutting it any time soon.

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Props to BrainsickHater for talking me into audibleing to Burn. I threw a list together main decking Hushwing Gryff. Ran 3 Ride Down in the board which was insane. I made Top 8 after conceding to a friend to get him in, then I dropped because another friend was 9th. Deflecting Palm was swingy, won m...

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Haven't played a game of standard since rotation but I'm going to States tomorrow. I think I'll be running this over Jeskai tempo, and run Hushwing Gryffs in the main.

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Switching back to burn for the SCG Invited tomorrow. Have to settle on a version and sideboard in the morning. Fuck preparation I guess.

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Jund Walkers can ramp out threats that both out-race and out-value burn (Nissa/Xenagos/Etc) while clogging the ground with the Caryatid/Courser package. Post board they can exile Phoenix and Duress you. So on paper the matchup appears bad, and in testing against good pilots it's been bad. While play...

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I still haven't decided if I'm running Burn or Rabblered at the invitational. I'm not interested in playing Burn if there's a lot of Jund Walkers but rabblered might be hated on.

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oh man this reddit thread.... http://www.reddit.com/r/spikes/comments/2dfr9x/standard_rw_burn_testing_and_turning_for_wmcq/ ... that guy is back... I'm not the only one who remembers him I hope "I don't care what you say about YP. It doesn't DO anything relevant in the format." :munch: Al...

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Didn't get there with burn at the Standard Open but I apparently ran the deck back in the modern event. http://sales.starcitygames.com/deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=71448 I saw that! I was looking at the top 16 lists and I see 1st -17th and a 39th place decklist. Saw it was Standard deck and ...

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Didn't get there with burn at the Standard Open but I apparently ran the deck back in the modern event.
http://sales.starcitygames.com/deckdata ... ckID=71448

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I don't want them against the new Red decks

Buh? 1 mana removal is exactly what I want against those decks. Sure, it's sorcery speed, but it's cheap enough that you can still hold up an Instant.

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Reckoner houses Rabblered so badly that it's actually embarrassing. I'm sticking with them for the Open, they're good enough enough matchups. Has anyone playtested them against MonoU by the way? I'd guess they'd be fine, not sure if they should come in though, I haven't tested them enough.

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If you want Flames in, what are you cutting that is significantly worse?

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Another article about the PT decks... don't agree with what they said about the burn deck at all. http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article.asp?ID=11968 "Boros Burn is also relatively straightforward compared to most decks in Standard, and while it can change roles between control and aggro, it's ...

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Are the 4 Stokes really working for you guys? I've been running between 1 and 2 and found it to be extremely mediocre when I don't have a Pyromancer going. I haven't had the chance to test 4 yet.

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MDU, I distinctly remembering you advising me against playing FDS. You aren't allowed to try stuff or change your mind.

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If you're smart and don't mono lava spikes, the aggro matchup are super favorable. You can still lose, but youre basically playing the best control deck possible vs then. Nah man, haven't you heard, if you use all your spells killing their creatures, like, you're guaranteed to lose that game becaus...

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I haven't tested the WB Midrange matchup since the last time it was popular, but shouldn't Gryff be great against it? It counters Sin Collector if you're on the play and demands an answer if they want to stabilize with Obzedat. I'm probably going to drop my 3rd Wear//Tear for a 2nd Gryff. I admit my...

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Here's the list: [deck]Creature (9) 4 Young Pyromancer 1 Eidolon of the Great Revel 4 Chandra's Phoenix Instant (27) 4 Shock 3 Skullcrack 4 Lightning Strike 4 Boros Charm 4 Stoke the Flames 4 Warleader's Helix 4 Searing Blood Land (24) 4 Mutavault 3 Sacred Foundry 9 Mountain 4 Battlefield Forge 4 T...

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I would like to find room for some more "big aggro" hate. It was suggested that I remove the Firedrinker Satyrs as they only come in against UW. They might be right. I was running Firedrinker Satyrs too because I was looking for a 4-of to bring in against both Mono Black and Control, as I...

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I will be there. Finances and time finally allow me to attend one of these. I would still recommend paying attention to the PT results. There are going to be plenty of people copying those decks. I don't expect the Open to shift so quickly that I'll need to make major changes. There is one exceptio...

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So who else is going to be at the Syracuse Open?
I'm expecting the typical meta of Jund, Junk, MonoU, and MonoB with a spattering of Walker builds and an uptick of W/G aggro.
I'll be building accordingly, and probably ignoring the PT results.

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Playing STD win-a-box events at the GP for funsies. Beat a T1 Cackler T2 3xBTE + Satyr opening thanks to YP and Indestructibility.

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Against MonoU you don't have to save Hushwing Gryff as a trick, just run it out and start beating down with it. They are so removal light already.

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I feel like a lot of you guys are going all-in on the control approach in a ton of matchups. Why not just adjust the main-deck to reflect that?

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Basically my biggest deciding factor will be which green decks emerge as the most popular and how many mana dorks they run. If they're running the full sets of Mystics and Voyaging Satyrs as well as BTEs, I'll be happy to have Searing Bloods. Given how explosive the green decks can be, killing a man...

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We're already well positioned against the decks that searing blood is good against The only matchup I don't like Searing Blood in right now is MonoB and Control and we don't need every slot dedicated to those decks. It still savages mana dorks, mutavaults, MonoU, and the worse but popular version o...

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More than I currently see, which is already a lot.
Wear/Tear is one of my favorite cards in the board.

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I'm leaning back towards Searing Blood in the board again, there are so many juicy targets for it, including the new Mono Green devotion lists. Having 3 or 6 damage banked really does make a difference when you go on the beatdown against decks that can rebuild pretty quickly, especially if you didn'...

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Ugh, Bloodseeker? Your opponent needs to both have a creature out that you want to kill and no removal for it to connect.

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I agree with Whole and Zemanjaski, don't board out Phoenix.... Question for you lot - how do you all rate W//T in the current metagame? I'll imagine with the boost Small Red and Green/friends decks got + the printing of Back to Nature, UWx decks are more incline too go for the 6+ sweeper route rath...

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Hushwing Gryff is also another skullcrack against Nylea's Diciple which is nice because flyers are great against those decks and they'll be hard pressed to remove it. Hosing MoW has me excited too. I'll be boarding it in against MonoB, MonoU, Big Green decks, and the less common constellation builds...

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Why would you bring in Stoke the Flames against anything? I think it's a main deck card or nothing. It's not dead against any matchup and it's not particularly amazing against any matchup, makes for a terrible side deck card. I'll be starting with 2 in the main like MDU and cutting it completely if ...

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No, I think that guy lost actually too. He had the same thought as Reid that if you focus all your burn on killing his creatures, you somehow can't win with...all your recurring damage? I'm kind of confused, the deck's win condition against creatures is kind of obvious but it seems like they have a...

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As you may or may not know most old MTGO players will be rewarded with one FREE M15 release event

Do you have a link or more info on this, it's the first I've heard of it.

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Got my Stoke the Flames today, I'm ready to turn some Tokens sideways.

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