Dies to Removal

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My list for BotG came out to be very similar to yours, MDU. I had firedancers in the side for awhile but they're definitely solid enough to mainboard. Of course that led to cutting mortars entirely. I'm still tempted to play some number of Chandras but perhaps its not the best answer to UW. I wasn't...

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I played the RW Tokens list. Purphoros with Assemble and Elspeth is indeed and obviously very strong. I had the hardest time beating UW. The 4 dragons in the 75 seemed like the only threats I had. The deck didn't push out enough damage before all my big spells got dsphere'd. I like Pedros' idea of r...

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I don't have a wealth of knowledge on the matter of esper aggro but I haven't lost to it yet with pyrodragons and boros aggro. Celestial flare and explosive impact are probably uncastable. Renounce the guilds seems alright but I've been able to push through it every time and I'm not sure how good Rt...

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in 9 hours buddy

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not really. polukranos is pretty bad against non creature heavy decks and made up for by usually coming down on turn 3

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quick report of my CQ R1: win 2-0 BW midrange - just killed him R2: win 2-0 BW midrange - just killed him R3: loss :( 1-2 esper midrange - blood baron + obzedat/demon + whip all 3 games; i flooded hard g1 and g3 R4: win 2-0 esper midrange - drew my non land cards, killed a lot of his stuff, and even...

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Paper + pen is less prone to errors and can let you keep track of mulligans, who's on the play, and known cards in opponent's hands (say if they reveal some cards off garruk). Those tokens are fine - a lot of people use pokemon cards as tokens. They can be the same colored sleeve I believe as long a...

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nextgen video games in the los angeles area

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i scrub'd out of the invi. I played pyrodragons and went 2-2 but i feel like the list was very well positioned in the tourney. my friend used my list and 4-0d standard. I played MDU's list that got posted on dailymtg 75/75. I went 7-3 and top 64d with some silly losses. Not that thrilled about the r...

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i think i accepted it, let me check. i'm leaving tomorrow. my "friend" faked me out so now i dont have a real deck for legacy. i have to resort to playing burn w/o fetches or belcher. gonna have a fun time 0-4ing legacy. still dont know what to play for the invi, but its probably going to ...

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I think this Nick Newman was the guy that posted in this thread a few weeks back about this deck not being able to beat B/x LOL

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nice!

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Well the lists are so similar it's hard to pinpoint the differences but essentially, Big Boros attempts to go over the top which better against U/x, G/x, R/x while Pyrodragons attempts to go smaller. Pyrodragons can't go as small as say, boss sligh, and has a hard time pushing through the aforementi...

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I've been loving Legion's Initiative over in Big Boros and I'd like to incorporate it into PyroDragon's mainboard. I'm not sure what amount of creatures I need to make a mb LI worth it. It's great with Ash Zealot but its hard to fit her in with YP$ when you're also trying to cram in 13~ spells to tr...

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@valdarith boon doesn't seem particularly good when our main threats are recurrable

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I really liked Chandra because she provided a different angle of a threat. In this deck though, her falter isn't as impressive when our phoenixes and dragons get in regardless. Similarly, Elspeth provides that same planeswalker angle and is just a bit better at killing people and closing out games. ...

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@ MDU I definitely like that idea. Chandra is the best card in the deck, in my opinion . I'm glad you said that, after posting on the Big Boros Thread for awhile I was starting to believe that only Johnny_Spike and I saw the value in Chandra. I can't recommend 4x Boros Charms but the Assemble the L...

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Hmm my testing went alright. I tested Chandra and Assemble but didn't have time to try Elspeth. I ran horribly versus Esper and Mono Black (1-4 and 0-5). Most of my testing when to Mono U where we ended with like a 55% winrate. Watching MDU's videos and reading lazerburns reports, I'm inclined to th...

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man it looks like cuneo's UW is clogging up the top tables
good luck!

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I think the gatecrash boros guildmage is too slow. Like even slower than assemble. maybe the 2/2 body can make up the different but im not too sure

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Actually it skipped my mind. U/x has way more card advantage over us (even if they are likely to side out Bidents and Thassas). And U/x is enough of a force in standard and for our deck that 1 dedicated sb slot is worth it.

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I was a huge fan of 1 Rod / 2 Last Breath package but Rod only hits Mono U and even in that, it only effectively hits MoW. MoW is a problem but not nearly as much of a problem it was with the Pyro lists. I agree with LP that we can cut the Rod possibly for more B/x hate. I'm also not opposed to addi...

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Maybe we can cut both Assemble the Legion and add the rest of the Boros Charms. Then we can side into Adrian Sullivan's 'sledgehammer' mainboard against control

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In your SBP, your +/- numbers are uneven for Esper and U/W. I came to a lot of the same sideboard plans as you but I won't be testing till tomorrow. Just an idea, maybe Boros Reckoner isn't that bad against U/W Control. Maybe it's high casting cost is the drawback but it dodges Last Breath. It is re...

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hook me up with a sb plan too MDU

oh and are there any matchups where you side out chandra? I've been fiddling with taking her out against Boros Devo but I haven't tested enough to gauge the impact of chandra in that matchup

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I've been loving Legion's Initiative especially against caryatid decks. I'm testing boros legion, pyrodragons, and burn for the invi. I'm trying to gauge how much weaker boros legion is against control and mono black compared to pyrodragons.

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@RaidaTheBlade My current version of Pyrodragon is very similar to yours with some maneuvers to fit satyrs, reckoners, and yp$ into the main. I'll be testing heavily tomorrow night against an almost full gauntlet (G/r devo, mono U, mono B, and esper). I'll post my findings and ultimately try to find...

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have you been able to test against R/x Devotion at all Tyrael? Your list looks really sweet and I'm sweating trying to find a list for the vegas invitational (boros aggro, pyrodragons, or this)

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instead of seeing 2 firedrinker satyrs, I see 6 1 drops

exactly. I do think reckoner/phoenix fill 2 opposite roles so its harder to count that as 6 3 drops

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that's perfect, i really didn't want to go down to 3 dragons

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I think MattT was the one that suggested Underworld Cerberus. I personally like that as the big finisher more than Exava. I could be wrong but I feel like the guildmage is just too slow. In the really grindy games against mono U, bident + thassa outclass guildmage so much but most U players side tho...

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yeah I'll have to see how popular Esper is this weekend. It's not ideal, but I'd be satisfied with a very strong G2/G3 against U/x Control but I'm not sure if my current SB can do that. I don't even know if I can comfortably side in 4 Skullcracks + 4 Charms. Using mortars / chained postboard for blo...

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Ok I just played 15 game 1's against mono U with a friend and I got some very promising results. Here is my new list that I tested [deck=$@#$ mono U] LAND 23 12 Mountain 3 Mutavault 4 Sacred Foundry 4 Temple of Triumph CREATURES 18 4 Rakdos Cackler 4 Young Pyromancer 4 Chandra's Phoenix 4 Boros Reck...

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against mono U, im currently testing reckoners MB and siding them out g2+3 for more burn to fold to domestication

RB has really piqued my interests, gonna try testing some RB for the invi as well

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I'm really interested to see Pedros' list and possibly a list of all the decks he faced. I've been playtesting versus mono U with a friend and I'm stuck around a 50% winrate with PyroDragon. Normally I'd be comfortable with this but for the vegas invitational, I have a feeling that I really need to ...

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Kinda random but I realized that I blew off pyro red at the start of the Theros season when I saw these decklists http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=59592 http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=59629 I'm going to be playtesting a ton with...

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Yeah I really like Boros Charm and I was sad when the majority of this thread started trending away from it. Charm makes permanents indestructible so it also protect Chained to the Rocks from golgari charm / abrupt decay which is nice.

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So, right now I am pretty much in love with MDU's most recent PyroDragons build. I changed fanatic in the sideboard for aot's because of my meta, but that's it. I am considering taking the 2 fotf out, putting in 2 mortars instead, and have 2 mortars and 3 charms in the sideboard. Thoughts? (list wi...

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where at LP?

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